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ygagne
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mystery mauser
#389654 - 15/02/25 01:48 AM

New user need help identifying this Mauser. It's a military small ring action with 7.785'' between trigger guard screws. 8x57 caliber . no markings except serial numbers (all matching). on the military stepped barrel, I have another serial number (353144) . Maybe there is a marking under the scope mount but I hesitate to dismantle ... this rifle is really well balanced . [image][img]https://i.postimg.cc/1nKw7x4t/DSCF6228-f3600934-e9b9-47bc-a1fc-b046828410d7.webp[/img][/image] [image][img]https://i.postimg.cc/Dm2qJzYb/DSCF6223-aa0b5080-71e0-4525-aa57-d62719528d1e.webp[/img][/image] [image]

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lancaster
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Re: mystery mauser [Re: ygagne]
#389661 - 15/02/25 04:32 AM

the stock with "Bäckchen" and the attachment with a wedge were typical for Suhl/Zella Mehlis gunmaker builds before WW1 but also into the 1920s. looks like an ex military rifle was used here for making a hunting rifle.

whats with the proof marks? seems to be the I caliber.

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ygagne
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Re: mystery mauser [Re: lancaster]
#389662 - 15/02/25 04:52 AM

8h57js ....323'' bore.

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Re: mystery mauser [Re: ygagne]
#389665 - 15/02/25 07:07 AM

so, it was an original military barrel for the S cartridge

there are no proof marks under the barrel???

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ygagne
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Re: mystery mauser [Re: lancaster]
#389674 - 15/02/25 10:39 AM

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Re: mystery mauser [Re: ygagne]
#389691 - 15/02/25 06:04 PM

thinking about this my opinion is the barrel was changed sometimes.
maybe because the origal barrel was bad, damaged or the owner was unable to find 8x57I ammo and go the easy way.

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Re: mystery mauser [Re: lancaster]
#389766 - 18/02/25 06:23 AM

My money's on a commercial Gewehrfabrik Danzig. If you look them up I think you'll agree that it's very likely what you have.

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Re: mystery mauser [Re: lancaster]
#389769 - 18/02/25 07:57 AM

indeed the Gewehrfabrik Danzig Mauser is very similar but don't have the wedge

[img]https://up.picr.de/49276048zi.jpg[/img]

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-for-sale-online/rifles/mauser-rifles---sporter-pre-war/rare-gewehrfabrik-danzig-98-mauser-sporter-8mm-bolt-action-german-rifle-with-double-set-trigger---checkered-walnut-stock.cfm?gun_id=101528564

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Re: mystery mauser [Re: lancaster]
#389788 - 18/02/25 11:14 PM

I think if you really want to know what this action is you need to find out what may be hidden under that scope mount so you can take a couple good pictures of the left side and top side of the action. There may be nothing there but you won't ever know until you look.

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ygagne
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Re: mystery mauser [Re: dearmer]
#389870 - 22/02/25 02:41 AM

yes, I think you're right on. thank for the info!

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Re: mystery mauser [Re: ygagne]
#389896 - 23/02/25 06:08 AM

there were 3 of them all looking very similar. the mod 98 hunting rifle was made by the state factorys Danzig, Erfurt and Amberg for a short time, maybe 1919/1920. The Danzig and Erfurt rifles don't have the wedge, I don't know about the Amberg made rifle. Don't find a pic, think this was the rarest of them.
iirc, the Danzig made rifle have "Danzig" on the position were the mount is on yours. The rifles from Erfurt have there "RWE" what's Reichswerke Erfurt and the Amberg made rifles have there "Amberg".

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Re: mystery mauser [Re: lancaster]
#389897 - 23/02/25 06:18 AM

ok, was all on nitroexpress. chapmann was showing a Amberg rifle and this is having the wedge in the stock.

http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=216358&Main=214906

the bolt handle is very different

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Re: mystery mauser [Re: lancaster]
#389898 - 23/02/25 06:29 AM

its not easy to find good pics, this is a Erfurt Mauser

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=100563108

here is another on

https://auctionet.com/de/2694634-reichswerke-erfurt-98-sport-8x57i-429

the stock with the "Schnabel" tip is noticable

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Re: mystery mauser [Re: lancaster]
#389899 - 23/02/25 06:36 AM

and the Gewehrfabrik Danzig rifle

the bolt looks like yours

see now it have Gewehrfabrik Danzig on the left side

https://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f...un_id=101528564

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