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Fossdal
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Does tuskers like this still exist?
      #68701 - 04/01/07 12:31 AM



I found this pick as one of the avatars here on this forum. This is what we read about from the old times. Does individuals like this still exist in the wild?
Any picktures of simmilar eles would be highly appretiated!

Thanks, Bent.

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Re: Does tuskers like this still exist? [Re: Fossdal]
      #68707 - 04/01/07 01:35 AM

You might like to look at this:- http://forums.nitroexpress.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=67131&an=0&page=1#Post67131

There's usually a few 100+ pounders taken most years in either Tanzania and/or Mozambique and a few other places.

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Re: Does tuskers like this still exist? [Re: shakari]
      #68709 - 04/01/07 01:58 AM

Thanks, Shakari!

This one, anyone know of any other picks?





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Re: Does tuskers like this still exist? [Re: Fossdal]
      #68713 - 04/01/07 02:18 AM

This link might also be of interest - I copied it from the other thread.... http://www.sanparks.org/parks/kruger/elephants/default.php

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Re: Does tuskers like this still exist? [Re: shakari]
      #68716 - 04/01/07 03:47 AM

The last framed picture looks just like one I saw in the splendid book, "Elephants, ivory and hunters" by Tony Sanches-Arino?? It has some pictures of marvellous ivory. Several places in the book he states that the time of big tuskers are long gone...


Shakari: Mosambique and Tanzania still have good trophies? Do you happen to know the number of permits given each year?

They probably don't come cheap either way..


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Re: Does tuskers like this still exist? [Re: Bonde]
      #68717 - 04/01/07 03:58 AM

The standard quota for Elephants in Tanzania is the same as it is for Lion & Leopard - 4 per concession area per year.. although it is possible to apply for an increase..... then it's up to the game department whether they issue the increase. PAC/non exportable Elephants are not usually available to sport hunters and are dealt with by the game dept. Some hunting companies try not to sell the entire quota every year - which also seems to help. - If I can, I like to hold one each in reserve and only usually sell 3 of each of the key species.

Mozambique can be a bit diffrent I believe..... (I haven't operated there for couple of years) - I believe exportable Elephants are still on some kind of quota (Certainly CITES permits are)- but PAC/non exportable Elephant licences can either be issued by the Government or by local magistrates and are available to sport hunters.

One big difference is that Tanzania also has sex and size/weight requirements which over the years seems to have worked very well, in that they seem to be seeing a steady(ish) increase in trophy quality. Mozambique don't have such a requirement and to the best of my knowledge there hasn't been any particular improvement in trophy quality..... although, as I say, I'm a bit out of touch with Mozambique as I haven't operated there much in recent years.

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