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Ripp, your hunt looks to have been a resounding success and a great time. The photos are sensational.

Daryl if a PH wants me to use Barnes bullets he had better pay for them and be prepared to stalk with-in 20 mts of the game. Those things do not shot in my rifles. [/q

That is really weird ..they shoot incredibly well in several of my rifles ..especially in the 257 Weatherby's..1/2" groups out of both of them

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Hi Ripp,

Now that I have a bit more time, was rushed this morning.

Nice shot too. Long on moving game, outstanding. If it was me (that's if I fluked a hit) the Ibex would have landed on his head or hooked up on the fall.

I have had the pleasure of meeting and working with some Turks and they were friendly and very helpful and boy could the make a Donna Kabab.

Re the Barnes, I have not tried Barnes in my current 270- a Steyr Pro Hunter or my newer 35Whelen. The TSX are alright in my 35Sambar, only know that as somebody gave me some to try. I have spent over $500 on Barnes bullets testing them in 223, 270, 6.8SPC(TSX only) 308 & 358 of which the best group was 6". So I just will not pay for another Barnes bullet. If others give me some to try and they are alright then I may buy those and those only. Other monometal bullets shoot tight groups, do not know why the Barnes. In the 6.8 they shot well, but even the 85 grains designed for the 6.8 didn't open up at close range on goats unless leg bone or similar was hit. Hit one small goat from 20mts 4 times, all heart shots, all just penciled straight through. Goat was dead just it and I didn't know it, 5th shot was in the head. I have a stainless and blued barrel for the 6.8SPC - don't as why. In the Stainless barrel the Barnes shot well in the blued, no where near as well.

As an aside, I see Swift A Frames came in 358, 250 & 280 grains. Might have to try them in my 358RUM as it is too fast for Woodliegh's up close.

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Hello 303,

Yes, while they eat way too much in the way of tomato's, cucumbers and bread for my taste, generally the food was very good..THey prepared some of the Ibex for us the night after we got back to town. Had backstraps and liver...man, I almost had to get wheeled out of there I was so stuffed..

Back to the TSX--I only used them in lighter animals. I have NOT used them in elk sized game or on any hunt in Africa. As I said they do shoot incredibly well out of several of my rifles. I have two custom's built on a Rem. action with Hart barrels..will shoot under 1/2 inch all day long at 100yds, at times it's one hole.. The issue I have with the TSX's is they don't mushroom like the A-Frame or Sirocco for that matter.. I think that is important, especially on larger game..the game needs to "feel" that energy as its delivered...The A-Frames I have used and to a lesser degree the scirocco's, all have incredible mushrooms and retain a larger percentage of their initial weight..A-Frames are 90% typically, Scirocco's around 70%+..I recovered several A-Frames from the Lord Derby Eland I shot in Cameroon last year..all were 90%..also recovered one from the Roan I shot..same thing..

Until someone can show me better performance than what I am getting with them, for the really tough stuff, its the Swift Family for me... Everyone I know in my home area that are using them are having the same results.. I realize they are a bit more expensive, but frankly, don't care.. in this world you pay for quality..in fact it would be impossible for me to care any less about the cost of them..

I attached 2 clips for you I found on line--granted its promo by Remington and Federal, but its amusing and reiterates my point.. I have used the 250gr out of my 338RUM on elk..it would be impossible for them to drop any faster..shot one cow facing me at about 250 yards..hit her dead on in the upper chest, the bullet exited just under her anus on the other end..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoiyucAwBTI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wlizFCOqxE

Also an article by NORMA
https://www.norma.cc/en/Products/Components/Bullets/Swift-A-Frame/

I also really like the Nosler Accubonds for sheep/goat speciies..have used it on 9 hunts now and all have performed very well..all one shot kills at distances from 25 yards to a bit over 600...AND, I have found them to be very accurate in the rifles I shoot them in. My wife uses the 165GR Accubond out of her Kimber 308W...hammers elk ..have seen her take several elk from 335 to 540yds with that bullet/rifle combo..

In the end, my experience is match the bullet to the game you are hunting for optimum results.. granted you can use one bullet for all..but each has their positives to bring to the equation..