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Holts measure the barrel thickness and if they are of a thickness not considered safe or in proof the guns are sold as stock action and fore-end only. That is all. The barrels thin over the years and Holts are very particular about selling safe firearms. These ones have just reached the point where the barrels are too thin for Holts to sell. You can by them for parts, have new barrels made or have the barrels re-sleeved.

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Or more like worry about potential liability. IMO.

We all shoot guns like that every day without problems. But we don't load inappropriate MMO if we know what we are doing. Even using incorrect ammo usually isn't a big problem. My Dad and I used normal 2 3/4" shells in a 2 1/2" shotgun with Damascus twist barrels for decades. With luck, we didn't had an accident.

It's awful to decent shotguns with barrels with big rectangular holes cut into through the barrels.

None of the Baikals on the list had the barrels removed.?:)

I did acsearch on some of the famous maker names. None listed on this auction list.

Except for the cost of getting it to Australia, wouldn't it be wonderful to find a donor action with hammersm underlever or sidelever, appropriate shape, buttstock, forend, and rifled sleeved barrels. For a Howdah pistol. A few pounds cost maybe a hundred at most. One or two thousand for export and import is prohibitive. But if carrying one back? Much cheaper.

Does one need a shotgun licence to buy a shotgun action, stock, friend in the UK? Some jurisdictions register barrels, not actions? That could be another reason to sell them without barrels?

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John aka NitroX

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