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My reticles are the same as the first one Ripp's link shows in MOA. You don't notice the rest of the reticle when snap shooting.

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Have gone to 2 Long Range schools, both used NF exclusively.. and yes, while shooting, the reticles worked very well... really liked them once you got used to using them for windage, etc..actually very quick and accurate..

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