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That is good to know. I was told of a guy that might be able to get me onto banteng through permission from the traditional owners. Then I was told by an "official outfitter" that it is all poaching and he would "dob" in anyone doing it.

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IF the traditional land owners give you permission, you are free to do as you please, this guy obviously doesn't want anyone getting onto 'his' spread to hunt!

Most of the ones I saw were young but there were 5-6 really good bulls amongst them.

I heard a story once about a PH who bought a pet banteng from an old lady in Adelaide River that was truly massive and released it into a paddock he knew. He then proceeded to ring a wealthy American hunter and tell him he should get over here soon to bag it. After taking the bloke shooting for a few days away from the paddock, told him that that bull must be around here somewhere and took him into the paddock the next day. The bloke bagged the banteng and paid a hefty trophy fee for it too. On his way home he told the story to an aussie hunter on the plane who knew what had happened. The aussie bloke kept his mouth shut and the guy was beaming about his massive trophy!

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