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szihn
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Re: Fox non toxic bullets
      26/05/17 11:42 PM

Poison lead bullets and shot is the same as the flat earth, global warming and wonderful socialism. They are all lies to be fed to people stupid enough to believe them, and cops treasonous enough to enforce them.

It's just another lie with a hidden agenda.

Now that's not to say there is anything wrong with non-lead bullets. Like the Barnes X and the Hornady GMX bullets, I am sure these Fox bullets will do all you would ask, but that has little to do with the fact that there is no lead in them. We have the Swift line of bullets here in the USA, which have lead and will do all the expanding solid bullets will do. The down side to solid expanding bullets (and also partition bullets like the Swift and the Nosler) is the cost.

I know....I know....your bullet is the lest expensive thing to think of on a hunt.

That's not a good argument however. If your ammo is too expensive to practice with you don't become a good marksman, so affordability is a MAJOR concern for most hunters in the USA. A bad marksman will waist nearly all his money on a hunt because the hunt will be a disappointment.
Most American hunters are not wealthy men and women but just middle class, and many are of the poorer segment of society.

When I was a boy I grew up in the country. Money was hard to earn and hard labor was how we did it. But bullets and powder was cheap enough then that I could shoot a LOT. By the time I was 18 and joined the USMC, I had already shot the throats out of a 270 Winchester rifle and a 44 magnum revolver. I did that because I could afford to shoot. On a country boy's wadges no less!

As a gunsmith and guide, I seldom see hunters today who have the skill with their guns that I and several of my fiends had when I was a 17 year old kid. That's because they can't afford to practice like we did in those days.

It may be impossible today, and as many will point out everything is about 5X more expensive today than it was in the 60s and early 70s. So my post may be mostly worthless. But I sure do miss the days of $1.75 per pound powder, and bullets that cost $4 per box. Even at 6X the cost that would equate to $10.50 per pound of powder today and bullets of 24 dollars per box.
My old 44 magnum shot lead bullets I cast myself from Linotype in a 4 cavity mold. The metal I bought for $22 dollars a ton.

I hope the Fox line is going to be competitive with the American made bullets, but so far I have heard nothing about them. I wrote to them. Maybe I will hear back soon. I hope so.





Edited by szihn (27/05/17 12:25 AM)

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