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Pretorius
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Who invented the 270 win?
15/08/15 09:27 PM

A friend of mine, Erich Binder, recently passed in Viena. A rifle in his collection was gifted to me while he was still alive, it was caliber 6.7x63 on what seemed to be an 88 action. I wish I had inspected it more closely, because his remaining family, got rid of his entire collection as if they had planned the operation long in advance, the offending ironmongery now scattered. Fat chance of me seeing this piece of history again. What I have is what he told me, which is this: The 6.7 x63 Neuber was born circa 1911 , produced by Franz Neuber and Sohn. It is often lumped together by historians with the 6.5x63, but it entirely different in that it uses the 277 bullet of the 6.8x57 Chinese Mauser. Around 1939, production of ammunition ceased, and my friends father used 270 win cartridges without a hitch, with whatever differences there might have been being so slight, that for practical purposes the cartridges were the same.
Understanding that the 35 Whelen is in fact the 9x63 miller and greis ( not to be confused with the 9x63 Mauser) and also originating a decade or so before the American version, leads me to believe that Winchester could easily have lifted the design from the Austrian moribund company. It's also possible that the idea could have seen light on both sides of the ocean.
One can't help but wonder??
The 458 win is in fact the 450 Watts short, the 416 rem is the 416 Hoffman with a tweak of a difference, so giving credit where credit is due, is not exactly a tradition. This brings us to the question, who really invented the 270 Winchester?
Any light on this subject will be appreciated

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Mr P

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Subject	Posted by	Posted on
Who invented the 270 win?	Pretorius	15/08/15 09:27 PM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	Rule303	16/08/15 05:06 PM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	lancaster	16/08/15 05:58 PM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	eagle27	16/08/15 07:07 PM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	LSHopper	17/08/15 12:43 AM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	Homer	17/08/15 10:31 AM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	eagle27	17/08/15 04:41 PM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	Sville	17/08/15 06:53 PM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	Kiwi_bloke	18/08/15 07:45 PM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	Pretorius	19/08/15 08:53 AM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	Homer	19/08/15 05:07 PM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	eagle27	20/08/15 05:32 AM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	Pretorius	20/08/15 07:51 AM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	Homer	20/08/15 09:23 AM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	Deutsche_Vortrekker	21/08/15 03:39 AM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	Northman	21/08/15 05:27 AM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	Pretorius	21/08/15 06:33 PM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	eagle27	19/08/15 04:56 PM
Re: Who invented the 270 win?	Pretorius	17/08/15 03:19 AM

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