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I'm having trouble just getting over the amount of copper in those barrels, that'll take days just to get it clean, let alone get it to shoot.

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Doesn't affect Double rifles, especially big bores like it does Bolt actions. I clean at the end of a range session / overnight but if I am out hunting the gun can stay like that for a few days yet it still shoots.

Suggest get another copper remover.

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FATBOY404
500.
What a load of crap mate.
The reason it doesn't seem to effect DR is that they are only shot at 25-75 yards most of the time and accuracy is only about an 1/8 of a bolt gun and shot with open sights.

And no I don't own a DR either before you mention it.

If using my rifles but not firing a lot of shots I wont clean for a couple of weeks but normally clean every 20 - 30 rnds as a rule.

When I was roo shooting I would clean every night weather 20 shots or 100.

Just by shear volume of copper it will take a lot to get that fouling out.

What is your magic copper solvent as I am obsessive with solvents and there's not to many I haven't tried.

My best list is 1= JB's
2= Pro shot copper solvent
3= Gunslick foaming bore cleaner
4= Sweets

OK,so let me have it and point out my mistakes please.

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450_Ackley
Righto Nigel, let's get a few things straight here.
one - I don't own a double rifle and probably never will.
two - I'm damn sure there aren't many on this forum that have barrels as clean as what I have, or are as fussy as I am about having my rifle barrels clean.
three - If you are going to suggest another copper remover, why haven't you mentioned it?
four - that double rifles barrels are fouled, and it will take days to get them clean.
five - I obviously have higher standards than you do when it comes to looking after my rifles, I'm not wealthy by any means and have had to work hard for every dollar I've got, so I look after my gear.
six - as to not affecting double rifles as much as bolt guns, that's just plain old crap.
seven - at the risk of offending other double rifle owners, I will agree that they might still shoot when fouled, but they will never have shot as well as a good bolt action in the first place.
eight - if you're going to have a go at me, do your homework first.

Regards,
David.

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My CZs (375 & 458) foul like that. While Sweets 7.62 is good for copper removal, it was still a chore. I've switched to Tetra solvent. It still has an ammonia smell to it but can be left in the bore for a few days without damage of etching. It still takes about a week and a half with patching and reapplication every other day (the fouling comes out purple BTW).

I've also followed the lead of others and Cerra-coated both these bores. I thought I may have stuffed up the application but it seems to have started working now - it does take a few shooting sessions before it comes good. I know a guy with a 458Lott and another with a 505Gibbs and they both had their bores done, and they attest to it working. Can provide further info if you like.

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FATBOY404
M&9
I have heard a little of the product but no owner user stories. Maybe a new post on it mate.
The above was not aimed at you M&9.

By far the quickest is JB's on a tight patch. 450 Ackley put me onto it because when you go to a shoot and have 6,8,10,12 guns to clean it is a pain in the arse taking a week to clean each one.

I like the Pro Shot copper solvent for the over night thing as it is as vigorous as Sweets but more user friendly.

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Fellows, probably a silly question: Can you buy cleaning solvents over the phone and have them posted? I'd guess not, but I suppose if I ask, my local should be able to get something in.

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Ben

PM sent. Yes you can - but only some of them.

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Ben I have had stuff posted.They just tripple bagged it.

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Still interested in your reply 500Nitro ??????????????.

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Righto Nigel, let's get a few things straight here.
one - I don't own a double rifle and probably never will.
two - I'm damn sure there aren't many on this forum that have barrels as clean as what I have, or are as fussy as I am about having my rifle barrels clean.
three - If you are going to suggest another copper remover, why haven't you mentioned it?
four - that double rifles barrels are fouled, and it will take days to get them clean.
five - I obviously have higher standards than you do when it comes to looking after my rifles, I'm not wealthy by any means and have had to work hard for every dollar I've got, so I look after my gear.
six - as to not affecting double rifles as much as bolt guns, that's just plain old crap.
seven - at the risk of offending other double rifle owners, I will agree that they might still shoot when fouled, but they will never have shot as well as a good bolt action in the first place.
eight - if you're going to have a go at me, do your homework first.

Regards,
David.

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one - So ?
two - Fine by me
three - I have before and I have again above.
four - We'll debate that. I have one DR that is a prick to clean regardless of solvent used.
five - I look after my gear - so do I and I learn't that years ago when lives depended on it plus it was how I was bought up. I'm more worried about lack of oil / coating on the gun up north than a little bit of copper. You can see rust develop in front of your eyes up there.

six - Big bore DR's will still more often than not shoot
even when well fouled. Mine do anyway.

seven - Comparing a bolt to a double is like comparing an Apple and an Orange so it is totally irrelevant. As someone on here has said before, if you want to or expect a DR to shoot like a Bolt Action, get a Bolt action !!! LOL

eight - A difference of opinion, that's all. I can more than hold my own in a discussion on DR's an any DR forum WITHOUT having to do my homework on a person (with maybe the odd exception relating to historical knowledge of British guns where 400 NE and one or two others know far more than me - and I think most people on here would agree with that).

Edited by NitroX (18/06/11 08:51 PM)

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