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I am curious how does Millers company stay in business? I assume it is still his company as I saw him walking around the booth at Reno, if you have seen him before you know that he is hard to miss. Anyway the prices for some of the rifles at Reno approached the $100K mark, and may have gone over, I didnt look at them all, so who buys these?

I feel a bit of humor when I go by thier booth as you cannot touch the rifles without assistance according to the signs that lay beside every rifle. I suppose their theory is if you are touching crap it will be obvious once you pick it up and catch the smell .

I do not pretend to know too much about doubles, as compared to most of you on here, but I do read and I handle every one that someone will let me touch and I have owned several, one being a fine rifle. I have no problem with $100K rifles (except being able to buy them of course ) but the people who can and do buy $100K rifles, I would assume its not their "first rodeo" so to speak. How does Mexican Rigby, (thats funny) sell these rifles to the people who can afford to buy them. Maybe they get a sucker every now and then but that would not support a company?

In my oppinion a neophyte certainly can see the "etch a sketch" engraving, proud metal to wood fit, and just plain "cheesey production" everyting from the stamped looking John Rigby Co. name, the rear sight that deserves no description, and the action....... If a person has ever seen a London Rigby, how could they ever consider purchasing even a used California Rigby at a discounted price that is still more than its worth ???? I would think one would feel embarrasment showing the rifle to anyone that had any knowledge of fine doubles.

I have always had a curiosity about this company, and I think about it during the conventions every year. How the Hell is this company still in business? I am glad this thread was started.

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Firstly, let me correct something re the Wood to Metal fit - and your comment above about it being "proud". From my understanding, all gunmakers have proud wood to metal fit on a new gun - It was explained to me that this leaves a refinish in it down the track whereas if it started flush, if you refinished it, the wood would end up below the metal.

What we are commenting on in the above posts is the - and in my post the first gun in the first advert they did years ago - the wood work was crap and the wood to metal finish was crap - uneven, gaps etc. It SEEMS to have improved but I haven't handled one lately.


In regards to "touching guns", let me give you an example. I dropped by the Famars / A&S booth one day at a Las Vegas show as I wanted to see the Hammer Ejector Shotgun. Anyway, the guy I asked happened to be the VP of Sales and not only did he hand me the gun to look at, he took the damn thing apart and showed me how it worked - and that was AFTER I told him I wasn't a buyer, just interested in the action workings and I could see that it was beautifully built.

So I really can't understand what is what with Merkel (ooops, sorry Rigby) are on about.


"Hell is this company still in business?"
Who knows, who cares ? I don't. I only enjoy these threads as it provides some humour !

Just my HO

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