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Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion
15/03/08 11:55 PM

jaguar:

Thanks for the clarification. Yes, that is correct. The effect is the same as a "slam fire" and in fact in essence that is what happens from a practical standpoint, just like the 12's in that the gun can be fired by merely holding the trigger and racking the slide. A Winchester Model 12 also fires from a bolt-locked condition as well. As mentioned, if a gun fired otherwise {before bolt was completely locked} a catastrophic event would occur.

As Xausa says, most other pump shotguns have trigger disconnects that prevent trigger-held-down-slide-racking-fire {AKA "slamfiring"}.

I personally do not believe the Ithaca 37 was the reason for Remington's successful demonization of the single action bar. There were in the 1900-1950 period several other pumpguns that had single action bars that were not as reliable as the Ithaca. I have never seen a case of "binding" {I think that was the old Remington slick term for it} but I have seen Stevens 520's where the single action bar just plain came loose and essentially detached from the bolt carrier. I've never seen that in a Remington 870, Mossberg 500 or an Ithaca.

One thing an old Ithaca has all over the Remington is the lack of weight. Pick up and old 20 ga 2 3/4" Ithaca 37 and you will hardly believe you just picked it up!

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Pump Shotguns Opinion	gunbug	12/03/08 12:09 PM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	xausa	12/03/08 03:07 PM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	Mike_Bailey	12/03/08 10:11 PM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	ALAN_MCKENZIE	12/03/08 10:34 PM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	DarylS	13/03/08 01:49 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	gunbug	13/03/08 09:13 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	taw1126	16/03/08 01:40 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	9.3x57	16/03/08 01:59 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	ALAN_MCKENZIE	16/03/08 10:33 PM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	9.3x57	16/03/08 11:25 PM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	MacNaughton360	18/04/08 10:17 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	bigmaxx	21/04/08 10:33 PM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	Mike_Bailey	14/03/08 01:46 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	DarylS	22/04/08 02:43 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	Birdhunter50	30/06/08 11:39 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	wildfowl	03/07/08 02:24 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	Marrakai	14/03/08 11:14 PM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	9.3x57	15/03/08 12:20 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	xausa	15/03/08 02:31 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	9.3x57	15/03/08 02:42 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	jaguarxk120	15/03/08 09:22 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	9.3x57	15/03/08 11:15 AM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	jaguarxk120	15/03/08 12:22 PM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	9.3x57	15/03/08 11:55 PM
Re: Pump Shotguns Opinion	jaguarxk120	16/03/08 01:14 AM

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