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JabaliHunter, Not to start a fight for sure but you left out the part that when the shots were taken at the running bear "at ranges of 225 to 275 yards running thru the alders". You must have never been around a alder thicket. The point was that both of them were trying to get more lead into the bear in a very difficult situation that no mater what rifle was used would have been difficult.

This is speaking from experience. Judging this statement by the state of shooting at a bear running 25+mph through an alder thicket is not taking the following statement at face value from someone that does this for a living.

there is a bit of discussion on this forum about bears, and what works and what doesn't. from my point of view, leverguns can put maximum aimed fire in the shortest possible time. aimed fire being the operative word. anyone can shoot a gun, even pretty fast, but the levergun has proven to me to be able to place the shots accurately AND quickly.......

"Leverguns are for real. So much has been said about rainbow trajectories and such but I use them (.444,.450 and .45-70 to shoot 300+ yards without hesitation".

That is my statement. Did you watch the video? Most of those deer during the depradation kill were shot at 200 yards and beyond. Offhand. I use other rifles for the big fields where 400 to 500 yard shots are common and farther ones are not even rare.

This is my favorite set up for the long shots. .264 Custom Encore topped with a V-Tac.

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