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Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex "
      24/01/08 12:20 AM

Anyone who would say the .45/70 is 'better' than a .458 WM or any other of the more powerful rounds is being a mite silly.
; My problem is with people who look at 405gr. bullets at 1,320fps or 500gr. bullets at 1,210fps, who judge the round by those black powder ballistics and will not look at what the round has become in modern guise. It is difficult, I suppose, for people with little or no experience with these rounds, to access them in thier 'new' light.
: reflex264 - thankyou for showing us the work you've done - excellent - it's a lot of work to test as you've done. I am really amazed as the good showing of the light for calibre 300gr. Nosler. I had never considered it a viable weight in .458 calibre.
: The bullets that really have me interested, is full power loadings in both .45/70 and .450 Marlin with the 350gr. "X" and newer 350gr. TSX bullets as well as the 350gr. Speer FN. I think, if driven to 2,100fps or a bit more, they'd make a good show. This may be too low a velocity for the "X" bullets to expand past calibre, though.
: The Lyman cast bullet #462560, a flat nose design with large meplat weighs 560gr. in WW metal from my mould and should also put in a good showing. I was able to drive it to 1,850fps in the .458 2" using H4198 and could have added another 100fps with slower powders, I think. It's nose is too long for the lever guns, unfortunately.

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* "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " hoppdoc 16/12/07 05:39 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " Ripp   16/12/07 05:45 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 9.3x57   16/12/07 10:14 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " hoppdoc   18/12/07 11:08 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 9.3x57   18/12/07 01:10 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   19/12/07 02:06 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " Sarg   19/12/07 08:28 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 9.3x57   19/12/07 12:31 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " Sarg   19/12/07 02:41 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " hoppdoc   19/12/07 02:55 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " allenday   21/12/07 09:55 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 9.3x57   22/12/07 01:25 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " allenday   22/12/07 03:49 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 9.3x57   22/12/07 04:34 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " rigbymauser   27/12/07 02:11 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " hoppdoc   22/12/07 10:29 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   23/12/07 01:19 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " buckbrush   24/12/07 04:53 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   25/12/07 04:15 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 451whitworth   25/12/07 12:09 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   26/12/07 02:50 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " NitroXAdministrator   26/12/07 07:02 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 9.3x57   27/12/07 01:13 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   27/12/07 03:00 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " BFaucett   27/12/07 09:17 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   22/01/08 06:33 AM
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. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 451whitworth   27/12/07 12:45 PM
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. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " peter   27/12/07 04:52 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " Ripp   27/12/07 02:17 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 451whitworth   22/12/07 11:15 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " hoppdoc   22/12/07 01:47 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " smicha6551   22/12/07 05:23 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 9.3x57   23/12/07 01:01 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " smicha6551   23/12/07 04:11 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " Sarg   23/12/07 09:06 AM
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. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   22/12/07 12:51 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 9.3x57   19/12/07 03:44 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   20/12/07 03:41 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 9.3x57   21/12/07 01:00 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 9.3x57   20/12/07 02:03 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " Sarg   20/12/07 03:53 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " Sarg   19/12/07 09:00 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " JabaliHunter   17/12/07 09:17 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " SubDoc   28/12/07 06:47 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " xring   22/01/08 03:54 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " xausa   22/01/08 05:19 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " xring   22/01/08 11:54 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " JabaliHunter   22/01/08 05:15 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " xring   22/01/08 11:42 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " JabaliHunter   22/01/08 06:44 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " hoppdoc   23/01/08 12:33 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DDouble   23/01/08 01:28 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " xring   23/01/08 02:42 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   23/01/08 05:00 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " JabaliHunter   23/01/08 10:44 PM
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. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 500grains   24/01/08 03:53 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " Sarg   24/01/08 09:32 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   25/01/08 05:05 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " Sarg   25/01/08 08:46 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " reflex264   24/01/08 12:37 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   24/01/08 01:15 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " hoppdoc   24/01/08 08:00 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   25/01/08 04:19 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " hoppdoc   25/01/08 10:04 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   04/02/08 08:06 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   24/01/08 12:20 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " JabaliHunter   24/01/08 02:43 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " xring   23/01/08 10:33 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " xausa   23/01/08 04:02 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " xring   23/01/08 10:38 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " reflex264   23/01/08 12:59 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   23/01/08 05:34 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 9.3x57   18/12/07 12:12 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " JabaliHunter   18/12/07 12:34 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   17/12/07 10:43 PM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " JabaliHunter   18/12/07 12:40 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " 9.3x57   18/12/07 05:17 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " peter   18/12/07 07:12 AM
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. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " Sarg   18/12/07 08:36 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " peter   18/12/07 01:52 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " DarylS   18/12/07 03:14 AM
. * * Re: "45-70 is the way to go from Ele to T Rex " JabaliHunter   18/12/07 03:38 AM

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