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Daryl,
You are saying that you use:

Powder ) Ball or Powder ( ball?

Thanks
Martin

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; Huh? - I don't understand & couldn't find the reference.
; Smokeless Powder then gas check cup down to seal, gas check cup up with the ball & crimp. You may have to use a fibre wad in the middle to adjust wad column height for crimping. I prefer to use folded star crimp. Usually it doesn't quite close completely in the middle and the ball is visible for ID sake.
: For use with black powder: powder, then 2, 1/8" hard card wads, then gas check cup up, then ball, then crimp. Adjust wad column in the middle with card or fibre wads to get proper crimp length.
: Black powder flame will melt the plastic if the gas check in on the powder. You don't want plastic melted onto your bore.
: With this method of loading, undersized balls work just fine as the gas check's cup holds the ball centred when under accelleration up the bore. Since it isn't scrubbing the bore, the ball won't lead the bore, yet it gets launched from the bore's centre at the muzzle, regardless of bore or ball size. undersize, ie: .690" balls can be shot this way from full choked guns and still deliver good accuracy to 75 yards, maybe more. My buddies did this with their Rem 870's just using their duck load and subbing the ball for the shot. Their velocities were low, in the 1,300fps range, but the moose didn't know it. At 50 yards, the WW ball would exit the far side of a 50gallon drum, while Foster slugs wouldn't make it through the impact side. As for buckshot on the steel - well how does lead smears sound? Some guys used normal trap or field wads and put a 20 bore ball inside the wad. this also works, but reduces the ball's weight to about 320gr. for a .610" to .615" ball. Apparently, they kill moose just fine as they should. Incidentlyk it is illegal in some areas to use a shotgun for hunting larger ungulates. Check your game laws. A smooth gun with iron sights specifically developed (by you) for shooting round balls is no longer a shot gun as far as I'm concerned - reference would have to be made in court to the ball guns or double smoothbores for Indian and African game as presented in WW Greener's most excellent book, the 9th edition or "The Gun and it's Development".
; In my double, the midrange Black powder load shot well. That was 5 1/2 drams (150gr.) of 2F. It kicks considerably more than an equivalent load with smokeless, for those who feel the gun must punch the shoudler to have power. The smoke is nice to see, too. The BP loads certianly do 'feel' more powerful. Not too many want to shoot the 7 dram load from a 7 1/2 pound gun. Just about spun me around like a weathercock - but it as accurate. You can duplicate that 7 dram BP load's velocity with smokeless powders and less than 1/2 the recoil- easy to shoot as 1-1/2 ounce magnum lead shot loads?

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Daryl


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