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Re: California bans lead bullets
      07/01/08 01:18 AM

I just read a synopsis in Fur-Fish-Game.

The ban will cover those areas of the state that encompass the range of the California Condor. The "leaving of carcasses" by hunters is the trouble according to those who have promoted the ban. Just what "leaving carcasses" means I do not know, unless they are referring to gut piles as stated above or varmint carcasses. Neither such sources would appear to me to likely hold ANY bullets statistically speaking.

One of the shooting sports associations stated that an education program for hunters would have been a much better method to address this "problem" {if it is a problem as nothing was mentioned about any case of lead poisoning of condors due to bullets}. Hunters could remove carcasses and thus remove the problem. This sensible approach was, of course, rejected.

One concern put forth is that due to costs of shooting thus being sent skyrocketing, it is estimated that some thousands of hunters will quit the sport, this being the last straw of sorts, and thus reducing revenue for the State wildlife department, thus reducing funding for legitimate and functioning conservation programs. Where the protection of the condor does not seem to be the result of this new law, damage to other conservation programs seems to be a very likely result of this new law. Interestingly, just as with the wolf recovery promoters in Idaho, the "condor protectors" do not seem to care what happens to other species, and in fact, my belief is that they HOPE other species will suffer, thus creating another species management problem for which to devise a "nonhunting" solution.

This all sounds way too much like the thinking of Indian and Kenyan "hunting ban" fanatics. One problem leads to another, to another, etc...

I see an enforcement issue, too, as I suspect many hunters will simply ignore the law. Having said that, I bet the fine/punishment for violation will be extremely severe, far beyond what is sensible, since the violation would involve an "endangered species".

More opportunity for the trial lawyers.

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