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Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT??
      11/12/07 02:41 PM

Years ago, when I trained my riot squad and perimeter security squad, we found the plated 00 buffered buck did well on the silhouette B-27 targets we used and therein is the only 'humane' use for them. - in my most humble opinion, of course. I would never trust them to a big game animal. Point blank they'll work well on black bears - but only where the pattern is about 3" to 4" in diameter at most and the side of the head is the target. They fail generally to get into the vitals at 25 yards on bears and on a grizzly with boradside shots, even at somewhat closer ranges. Rangers in Jasper Park found that out and the buckshot hole in the hide for the entire charge was 2" in dimaeter. They wer very close as the bear came down the trail into the tent camp. No pellets of the charge made it past the ribs, into the lung cavity. One ranger, using 1-1/4 ounce Federal Fosters dropped the bear after it stood up in front of them and growled. His slug went through the sternum, lungs and shattered the spine. Personally, I'd have preferred a single, solid round ball. That one would have exited instead of flattening in the spine. A bit more range or slightly poorer hit and the soft Foster may not have had the 'best' effect. They most likely won't smash a shoulder or have any poop left once doing that - a 12 bore ball, that will exit an Indian Elephant's head on a broadside shot most certainly will.

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Daryl


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* WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57 26/11/07 02:08 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? gblrklr   23/02/08 02:58 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57   24/02/08 12:56 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   24/02/08 04:02 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? gblrklr   24/02/08 05:44 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? kcordell   26/02/08 08:37 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   20/03/08 02:49 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Nakihunter   20/03/08 09:31 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57   20/03/08 10:09 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   20/03/08 02:34 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Marrakai   20/03/08 06:27 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   21/03/08 01:16 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Marrakai   21/03/08 09:55 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   03/04/08 01:42 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 450_366   03/04/08 01:49 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? apr1775   13/10/08 12:27 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57   13/10/08 01:23 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? apr1775   13/10/08 10:46 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Tatume   13/10/08 12:38 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57   03/04/08 01:54 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 450_366   03/04/08 01:58 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Tatume   19/03/08 10:57 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? bwananelson   23/02/08 03:31 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? gblrklr   23/02/08 03:36 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? tinker   23/02/08 04:24 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? luv2safari   03/01/08 05:56 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   04/01/08 03:28 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Yogi000   15/01/08 07:43 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? xausa   15/12/07 05:41 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Yogi000   15/12/07 07:39 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   15/12/07 09:42 AM
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. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? mehulkamdar   13/12/07 05:24 PM
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. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? mehulkamdar   14/12/07 07:38 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57   14/12/07 12:45 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? mehulkamdar   15/12/07 04:13 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57   27/11/07 12:57 AM
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. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57   29/11/07 12:54 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DM   04/12/07 03:13 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57   07/12/07 01:17 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DM   09/12/07 07:03 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Yogi000   11/12/07 05:15 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57   11/12/07 01:10 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   11/12/07 02:41 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Nakihunter   11/12/07 08:39 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57   12/12/07 01:00 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Yogi000   12/12/07 03:52 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DM   12/12/07 09:49 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Birdhunter50   30/06/08 11:56 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? gryphon   21/03/08 03:53 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 450_366   03/04/08 01:22 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   13/12/07 02:08 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Tatume   13/12/07 02:34 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Dave_Hall   13/12/07 07:33 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57   13/12/07 08:05 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   13/12/07 09:03 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DM   13/12/07 11:07 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? 9.3x57   13/12/07 11:41 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   13/12/07 03:52 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DM   14/12/07 03:44 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   15/12/07 01:40 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? JabaliHunter   14/12/07 04:52 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? smicha6551   14/12/07 06:48 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DM   14/12/07 11:32 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Tatume   14/12/07 09:54 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   15/12/07 01:52 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Tatume   15/12/07 03:28 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Yogi000   13/12/07 02:06 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   12/12/07 08:53 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Yogi000   07/12/07 06:40 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? DarylS   28/11/07 06:03 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Shackleton   27/11/07 03:24 PM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? ALAN_MCKENZIE   27/11/07 12:57 AM
. * * Re: WHO uses BUCKSHOT?? Tatume   26/11/07 03:10 AM
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