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Marrakai
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Re: Target for zeroing with open sights
      09/12/07 01:45 PM

IMHO a lot of nonsense has been written about this 'wandering POI' supposedly caused by a round bead fore-sight, and I believe the furphy was probably started by paper-punchers rather than hunters. The Brits made virtually all their double rifles with a gold or platinum bead during the 'hey-day', and for very good reason. Because it is round, it will almost always catch light from some angle, except directly in front where the silhouette profile is relied upon.

Look, do the math. A typical large gold or platinum front bead is around 80 thou in diameter (many are smaller). If the side-light is reflecting off one half of the bead, leaving the other half in shadow, the center of the bead may appear to be 20 thou to one side of its actual position. Given a 20-inch sight radius, which would be typical of a DR, the bullet will strike 1.8 inches to one side of the POI at 50 yds. Negligible! This is still only 3.6 inches off-line at 100 yds. Even the best shot in the world will not hold his group to significantly less than 3.6 inches at 100 yds with open express sights under field conditions. Any animal shot at with a large bead-sighted DR at 100 yds is going to have a 12 to 20 inch boiler-room, so what's the problem?

Most of my DRs have gold bead fore-sights, and I love 'em. Wouldn't alter them if you paid me!

(...with apologies to Gerald Burrard, who is the first author I can find to advocate the flat-face bead, although like JPK above, he specified that it be sloping forward to catch sky-light, and undercut to throw the stem into shadow.)

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* Target for zeroing with open sights 93mouse 06/12/07 11:04 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights hoppdoc   07/12/07 12:29 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights Marrakai   07/12/07 03:29 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights DarylS   08/12/07 03:46 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights 9.3x57   09/12/07 01:19 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights JPK   09/12/07 01:36 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights 9.3x57   09/12/07 02:09 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights Bill_Cooley   09/12/07 01:57 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights JPK   10/12/07 02:03 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights 9.3x57   09/12/07 02:22 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights Marrakai   09/12/07 04:50 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights 9.3x57   10/12/07 01:19 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights peter   10/12/07 04:06 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights 9.3x57   10/12/07 09:18 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights DarylS   10/12/07 09:47 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights Marrakai   09/12/07 01:45 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights 400NitroExpress   10/12/07 11:11 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights DarylS   10/12/07 11:48 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights 400NitroExpress   11/12/07 02:59 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights 9.3x57   11/12/07 03:45 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights DarylS   11/12/07 11:40 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights Rustyzipper   11/12/07 10:03 AM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights 9.3x57   10/12/07 12:26 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights JPK   10/12/07 01:38 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights 9.3x57   10/12/07 02:00 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights Ripp   10/12/07 02:24 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights JPK   10/12/07 02:28 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights 9.3x57   10/12/07 02:37 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights JPK   10/12/07 03:00 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights 9.3x57   10/12/07 03:22 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights JPK   10/12/07 02:17 PM
. * * Re: Target for zeroing with open sights JPK   10/12/07 01:51 PM

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