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Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf
      30/11/07 05:50 AM

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.400 NitroExpress.30/06 brass with is the same as .25/06, .270, .280, is loaded to 63,000PSI in the smaller calibres. Due to the weaker Springfield rifles and actions of the 1st war, '06 ammo itself is held to lower pressures. For modern rifles, wiht handloads, it's pressure allowable is the same as any other calibre on the same case.




False. The maximum safe pressure is that which the weapon was proved for, and that is the purpose of proof. Any other assumption is baseless and irresponsible, especially with respect to a 1930s rifle. European built .25-06s are proved to 65,266 PSI and .270s to 62,366 PSI - .30-06s and 8X60s are not and never have been. Sure, you can keep going until the primers fall out and then back off a mite. You may set the lugs back or worse, or you may not. Even if you don't, it's a particularly stupid thing to do with a 73 year old rifle. Published European data developed recently in modern pressure testing equipment (which I've a hunch the above data represents) won't exceed CIP max, as the standards are law there, which they have never been here.

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Due to it's larger bore size and attendant greater expansion ratio, the 8mm on the '06 case will exceed any ballistics the .308 cal.'06 can produce, with the same bullet weights,at identical pressure.




I said the velocities with same weight bullets would be similar, as indeed the above data shows, not that they would be identical. The data shows the same or perhaps slightly greater velocity for a 187 grain 8X60S max load as what can be expected with 180 grain .30-06 at the same pressure limit.

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* 8x60 Magnum oberndorf fraserdouble 19/11/07 11:16 PM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf FrankMartinez   26/12/07 04:10 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf mehulkamdar   26/12/07 06:14 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf Collath_500BPE   20/11/07 12:28 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf m4220   20/11/07 12:32 PM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf Collath_500BPE   28/11/07 09:03 PM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf 400NitroExpress   29/11/07 01:50 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf jwheeler   29/11/07 07:15 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf DarylS   30/11/07 04:37 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf 400NitroExpress   30/11/07 05:50 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf DarylS   26/12/07 11:01 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf Blacktail53   31/12/07 02:48 PM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf FrankMartinez   02/01/08 10:03 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf BFaucett   20/11/07 02:30 PM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf m4220   20/11/07 04:15 PM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf BFaucett   22/11/07 03:30 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf fraserdouble   22/11/07 09:34 PM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf tinker   23/11/07 04:41 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf Texraid   23/11/07 01:48 PM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf fraserdouble   23/11/07 09:57 PM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf Mauser8x60   23/11/07 11:10 PM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf FrankMartinez   26/12/07 08:48 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf Texraid   25/11/07 03:24 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf tinker   25/11/07 04:47 AM
. * * Re: 8x60 Magnum oberndorf fuhrmann   21/11/07 04:47 AM

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