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333_okh
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Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?
19/11/07 08:38 AM

Well I have come to disagree with velocities over 2600ish fps for game animals your eating. I like the 358 and the Whelen. I also like the 9.5 Mannlicher and the 9.3 Mauser. My current custom is a 6.5X55 SE that launches 155/156 grain slugs at 2600 fps. I think the 338 Federal has a lot to offer, but I am also cautious of small cases and high pressures. I will not hotrod the cartridges past their design. Velocity is too often used as a fix, or just to see who has the hottest caliber, but most of the time it is a poor sub for hunting skills. Sorry, I had to say it and I do not mean any offense to anyone, but a 300 RUM is not needed when your 115 yards from your quarry and bullets often have erratic performance. I know you just spent a buck$ a bullet for your favorite reload in your Ultra or Short Mag, but guess what, you do not need it! The bullet companies are making a killing designing bullets small for caliber but tough to take the velocity junkies handloads. I would choose a heavy long for the caliber load at moderate velocity. Look at what calibers like the 30'06 were designed with. Yeah, that’s right 220 grain slugs reduced to 174 later. This is still larger than most shoot out of it today. Take a look at the 8mm Mauser and the 196/198 grain loads from Europe. How about the 9.3X62 with the 286 grain smashers?!?! We look at the historical reputation of a caliber and them make it into something else when we get it by using bullets in it that we neither the ones that made the reputation, nor the ones designed for the caliber.

Sorry if this is considered a high-jacking of the thread, but the 358 would do everything I would want for NA bigger game, especially under 200 yards with 225s or 250s.

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358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	Woodbeef	07/01/07 01:00 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	jro45	24/11/07 11:26 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	xausa	19/11/07 03:21 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	Nakihunter	19/11/07 07:44 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	333_okh	19/11/07 08:38 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	DarylS	20/11/07 02:24 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	xausa	20/11/07 08:49 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	9.3x57	20/11/07 10:22 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	333_okh	23/11/07 02:37 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	DarylS	24/11/07 04:09 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	jro45	01/12/07 12:20 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	DarylS	01/12/07 01:40 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	FourWinds	24/11/07 05:13 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	xausa	25/11/07 12:51 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	hoppdoc	25/11/07 01:42 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	9.3x57	25/11/07 01:33 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	bonanza	24/11/07 06:58 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	allenday	24/05/07 11:46 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	DarylS	26/05/07 01:54 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	Blacktail53	26/06/07 01:24 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	DarylS	27/06/07 03:46 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	9.3x57	27/06/07 11:34 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	Blacktail53	27/06/07 11:53 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	4seventy	13/03/07 12:58 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	9.3x57	20/05/07 11:32 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	NE450No2	22/05/07 04:40 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	DM	03/03/07 03:23 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	Woodbeef	03/03/08 07:55 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	DarylS	10/01/07 07:19 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	500grains	15/01/07 12:15 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	400NitroExpress	25/11/07 07:31 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	500grains	01/12/07 02:50 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	bonanza	18/12/07 02:17 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	Blacktail53	31/12/07 02:05 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	bonanza	03/03/08 11:05 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	DarylS	03/03/08 12:59 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	JabaliHunter	01/01/08 03:05 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	DarylS	06/02/08 08:19 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	12FVSS260	06/02/08 06:10 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	9.3x57	01/12/07 01:39 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	400NitroExpress	06/12/07 05:30 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	4seventy	06/12/07 10:15 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	Rustyzipper	12/02/07 03:47 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	luv2safari	07/01/07 02:51 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	475Guy	07/01/07 05:29 PM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	blackberry9	08/01/07 12:01 AM
Re: 358 Win.....Good Choice or Dog?	BFaucett	07/01/07 02:14 PM

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