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Re: Need advice on which powder to use???
      18/07/07 01:10 AM

I should have stated that bore butter was poor in 'MY' rifle. Others may have different results. I've heard from several experienced black pwoder shooters that bore butter did indeed 'build' up in the bore, especially the corners of the grooves and I trust their statements of experience. One of them still uses it, swears by it's accuracy. I have heard from others that in shallow rifling (buttoned) like some of the produciton rifles, that the bore butter build-up causes accuracy to deteriorate after a number of rounds. The fellow who still uses and swears by it, doens't clean between shots and neither do I, never have other when testing clean visa/vis dirty accuracy shooting. He states he has to use exceptionally hot water to soften the bore butter in his bore on final cleaning for the day, as well as a stiff bronze bore brush to get the 'residue' out of the grooves. Again, it appears all results aren't the same.
: If one has to wipe between shots, how does one reload quickly for a second shot if needed?
: I use only cold weater for cleaning black powder fouling. According to a letter to a friend of mine, from Holland and Holland's (England), cold water is the proper cleaning solution for black powder fouling as it disolves BP fouling almost instantly. Use of hot water, expecially boiling hot water, glazes the fouling, and therefore is a poor solvent for it. Adding soap and especially detergent to the mix only intoduces chemicals to your bore. They are not needed for cleaning black powder fouling. I never use soap in my BP guns. I use only cold water now, (flush cleaning), dry with patches and then spray liberally with WD 40 down the bore, then patch it out with 2 dry patches. It sprays out the vent (or nipple seat) carrying away any residual moisture and leaves a very thin coating, only just damp, then evapourates to a dry bore. My barrels do not flash-rust after cleaning, as happens with hot water, nor do they rust in storage. Flash rusting, caused by the clean hot barrel oxidizing 9condensation due to heat) with moisture in the air is accumulative and will eventually result in pits, especially in the breech area along with the rest of the bore. Such 'ruined' bores can be 'salvaged' by careful lead lapping - I've done a few for friends. Some learned not to use hot water while others ar enow re-rusting their bores. Next time, I'll charge them for my time - 5 hours minimum. It will be cheaper to replace their barrel. This pitting due to a buildup of flash rusting, I've seen in many bores cleaned with hot water, including my own back in '72 when I first started shooting this stuff.
; Again, you may have different results wiht bore butter, maybe not. There are too many other good lubes for me to use that stuff. Spit for target, Lehigh Valley, crisco/beeswax, Moose Snot(murphy's/beeswax/castor-oil) Neesfoot-oil/pine-sol, mink oil or bears oil, for hunting, depending on what the rifle likes and wil shoot clanly enough for up to 5 or 10 shots. I have found only LehighValley or moose snot shoots as cleanly as spit, but of course, spit is not useable for hunting due to rust in the breech and bore if left for a period of time. That result is also accumlative.
;please excuse any and all spelling/typo errors.

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Daryl


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* Need advice on which powder to use??? pjb 24/06/07 04:12 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? DarylSModerator   23/07/07 02:34 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? pjb   23/07/07 04:05 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? Dphariss   04/08/07 01:45 PM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? pjb   07/08/07 09:53 PM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? Dphariss   07/07/07 04:58 PM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? Tatume   07/07/07 08:27 PM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? Dphariss   23/07/07 01:30 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? DarylSModerator   08/07/07 04:00 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? pjb   17/07/07 09:11 PM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? DarylSModerator   18/07/07 01:10 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? tinker   07/10/07 01:34 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? DarylSModerator   11/10/07 12:19 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? pjb   13/10/07 01:34 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? DarylSModerator   13/10/07 11:47 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? BillfromOregon   19/10/07 04:06 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? BillfromOregon   20/10/07 01:41 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? pjb   24/10/07 11:39 PM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? tinker   12/10/07 02:58 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? DarylSModerator   23/10/07 03:34 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? Plains99   18/07/07 04:37 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? Tatume   08/07/07 04:42 AM
. * * Re: Need advice on which powder to use??? DoubleD   08/07/07 04:32 AM

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