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hoppdoc
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Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?
01/07/07 10:09 PM

Great discussion!!

SAAMI specs for pressure are similar for the cartidges noted.I feel this relates to max pressures sustained by quality brass and specific cartridge design.The pressure measurements I referred to above are from the accurate reloading data tables.They pushed the cartridges to the desired velocities noted and got those pressures.

Per Hornady's reloading text Hornady performs their all ballistic work with SAAMI guidelines at 70 degrees F.All powders generally develop higher pressures at higher ambient temperatures.Personally, I would be very concerned taking a max safe 416 Rem load at 62,000 psi at 70 degrees F and hunting it at 110-120 degrees F for dangerous game in Africa.Yes you may be fine but your pressures are higher and you would seem to be at risk for big problems too.

The only way to resolve the question would be to shoot your factory loads or handloads at 120 degrees and note the velocity change/pressures involved.I think I do recall that a bullet or gun powder manufacturor was looking at that issue for the same reasons.

As for me I will stick to the 416 Rigby.More powder, more recoil,but lower pressures at higher African hunting temps.
I would have no problems hunting the 416 in Alaska with its lower temps.Cause thats where I hope to take my 416 Rem hunting Brown Bear in the future!!!

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Edited by hoppdoc (01/07/07 10:11 PM)

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416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	edmhunter	30/06/07 04:55 AM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	NitroX	02/07/07 01:48 PM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	Ripp	01/07/07 12:32 AM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	JohnTheGreek	30/06/07 05:10 PM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	jro45	30/06/07 11:14 PM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	hoppdoc	01/07/07 12:25 AM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	JohnTheGreek	01/07/07 02:26 AM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	hoppdoc	01/07/07 10:09 PM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	JohnTheGreek	02/07/07 12:34 AM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	9.3x57	02/07/07 12:42 AM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	hoppdoc	02/07/07 02:03 AM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	Ripp	02/07/07 09:32 AM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	allenday	03/07/07 01:50 AM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	Mike_McGuire	03/07/07 03:07 AM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	Bigfive	05/07/07 08:43 PM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	9.3x57	02/07/07 11:05 AM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	9.3x57	01/07/07 11:06 PM
Re: 416 Remington is it a good chocie for Africa?	allenday	01/07/07 01:49 AM
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