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Re: Proof loads
      18/06/07 10:31 PM

Vinnie:

As I read this post over again it seems to me there are two "camps" of thought surrounding the proofing of a gun.

It seems some might assert the only way to proof a gun is to have it done by a proof house. The other seems to assert that some practical form of proofing can be done by an individual.

My opinion is that there is some value in having the proof done by a proof house in that a little stamp can always be pointed to if you should ever want to sell the gun or if someone should ever be injured or hurt in the firing of it. In fact, depending on where the gun is being used, there may indeed be legal requirements to have the gun proofed.

Having said that, as a practical matter I believe some have misplaced faith in the process. A proof house stamp does NOT mean a gun is "safe". It only means it was capable of handling a certain load on a certain day. Read the thread and you'll get the gist of that.

So I believe you CAN prove your own gun. As mentioned above, we all do it all the time when working up new loads and in the USA when guns are rebarrelled, custom-made, etc.

Some may have differing opinions as to the validity of proof house proof, but I am going to guess that most or all of us will agree that if you do not have the gun proofed at a proof house you are on your own and must concoct a load and a procedure. I doubt anyone is going to say "Do this, this and this and you will be safe". At least I won't!

As a practical note regarding the .45-70, it is a perfect example of a cartridge that is "proofed" by individuals all the time. Factory ammo from Remington and Winchester is typically of the "Trapdoor Acceptable" variety, yet other custom ammo is available and many common and standard handloads are used which I suspect considerably exceed "Remchester" pressures all the time. Right there you are going to have to decide whether your gun is going to handle 15k cup stuff or double that on a regular basis. Am I going to have a clue whether your home made double will handle loads I commonly shoot in my Marlin? No way...

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* Proof loads doublegunfan 18/11/05 07:44 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads Birdhunter50   08/04/16 10:55 PM
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. * * Re: Proof loads Tatume   22/07/08 08:49 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads 9.3x57   25/07/08 11:44 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads 450_366   25/07/08 04:00 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads Bramble   23/07/08 06:49 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads Birdhunter50   23/07/08 09:51 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads Grenadier   23/03/08 09:09 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads 450_366   09/06/08 11:09 PM
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. * * Re: Proof loads Judson   17/11/05 11:10 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads Tom_Bigbore   18/11/05 12:14 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads 577Robert   23/11/05 08:57 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads doublegunfan   24/11/05 12:48 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads mickey   17/11/05 11:56 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads doublegunfan   17/11/05 09:54 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads banzaibird   17/11/05 11:08 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads iwantadouble   18/11/05 12:36 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads banzaibird   18/11/05 01:03 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads Tom_Bigbore   18/11/05 02:04 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads banzaibird   18/11/05 07:44 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads unspellable   22/11/05 10:43 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads doublegunfan   22/11/05 10:57 PM
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. * * Re: Proof loads 400NitroExpress   27/08/07 06:38 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads 9.3x57   27/08/07 06:47 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads DarylS   27/03/06 03:11 AM
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. * * Re: Proof loads larcher   01/03/07 05:37 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads pistolchamp   29/03/07 05:38 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads Bramble   29/03/07 09:49 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads Peterb   23/11/05 12:13 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads 500Nitro   24/11/05 01:33 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads Peterb   24/11/05 08:58 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads theprof1   07/07/19 02:17 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads crshelton   08/07/19 12:50 AM
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. * * Re: Proof loads Bramble   16/04/09 07:30 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads Huvius   16/04/09 11:09 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads 450_366   16/04/09 07:59 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads 9.3x57   16/04/09 11:18 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads DarylS   17/04/09 12:07 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads KWK   13/07/10 12:32 PM
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. * * Re: Proof loads KWK   14/07/10 01:26 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads CraigK   21/11/10 06:18 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads beleg2   28/11/10 11:15 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads DoubleRifle999   06/06/12 09:45 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads enfieldspares   25/07/07 05:36 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads Vinnie   18/06/07 09:20 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads Rich   04/08/07 11:56 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads 9.3x57   18/06/07 10:31 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads Vinnie   18/06/07 11:33 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads dnovo   18/06/07 11:22 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads doublegunfan   24/11/05 10:09 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads Peterb   25/11/05 03:48 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads Judson   03/12/05 10:57 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads k80   23/11/05 12:03 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads 500Nitro   22/11/05 11:30 PM
. * * Re: Proof loads mickey   18/11/05 01:58 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads 400NitroExpress   17/11/05 05:26 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads Peterb   17/11/05 04:19 AM
. * * Re: Proof loads foxfire   17/11/05 02:15 AM

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