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Re: New Steel vs Old steel
      24/05/07 03:06 AM

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Whether it has been applied or not there have been advances in metallurgy and technology over the last 100 yrs.




Which is in no way significant in the DR context.

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It would seem that the technology is available to manufacture a Double with lighter components, acceptable durability,faster lock time and a stronger action. In theory such guns could weigh the same as bolt guns with one barrel but have the 2nd shot capabilty that Doubles enjoy.Recoil should be no worse than a similar barrel bolt gun of the same weight.




Again, nothing has changed here. This was done 100 years ago, just as it can be done today, it's just that it's a non-starter. Once optimum weight for shootability and handling is achieved, making it lighter just because you can is just plain backward. You can have all of the 9 lb .400s the gods have earmarked for me. One of the reasons I LIKE doubles in the larger calibers is because bolt rifles are so often so stupidly light for caliber.

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Are the lighter weight 9.3's and Merkel 141's accomplishing this? Are they more desirable over their predecessors? Sounds like these calibers may be becoming a better mousetrap.




Well, they ARE lighter, but I think they're an example of "lighter just because we can" gone berserk.

Despite having my double rifle needs covered and needing another like a hole in the head, I've been kicking around a new Chapuis in 9.3 for years. It's the price that keeps it in my mind. I look at the overall build and regulation quality and see a screaming deal for the money. Despite the "coach gun" barrels, I talk myself into it...and then I shoot another one (I've shot four or five, the last just a few weeks ago), and then I'm off the idea again. At 7.25 pounds bare, it's just too goddamned light. It would swing oh so MUCH better on moving game (which is what it's for) one and a quarter pounds heavier. I know because I've been using an 8 lb, 14 oz medium bore double for years.

As for the Merkel 141 in 9.3....(cue "Twilight Zone" music)

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Is there a lack of similar applied technology used for Big Doubles or avoidance of techno applications due to weight requirements for recoil management?? Are we making better stronger Big Doubles today or are they inferior to their predecessors?




No. Some are too light for caliber, and I haven't observed the new rifles as being as durable as the old.

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