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Man I'm glad I found this place. That "other" spot left me with my mouth agape. Phil's forum is nice too.

Considering first double for buff and it'll be a Chapuis or Merkel. Likely Chapuis, yes for ejectors, but the Merkel is still in the running as it's a good deal. I don't completely believe either those who badmouth the Merkel nor those who state the Chapuis is the undisputed king of entry level DG DRs with no apparent flaws. 470 NE looks good for either choice but I'm seeing alot of the Merkel in 500 NE online and in person. Have yet to even see a Chapuis in person but that may change in a couple of weeks.

My questions are; Will the ejectors kick out unfired rounds too? If so then does ejecting unfired rounds stress DR ejectors? Should/can one remove the unfired rounds by partially opening the action and before the ejectors kick? What about after firing only one round? I assume the ejectors try to kick out whatever is in the chamber if you open the action fully unless the spring is only strong enough to eject empties? Is one of the advantages of extractors the ease with which one can top off during a follow up? OK I guess there's a little bit of the debate here.

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