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DarylS
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Re: What's wrong with a .458
17/12/06 07:25 AM

Why are any wildcats available? Because someone dreamed them up to 'fill' a niche they envisioned. Some are good, some are great, some are poor and some fill a niche that doesn't exist, except for them. some wildcats become factory, while others become proprietary ctgs. and some exist only as wildcats.
: Without the initial development of wildcats, we'd all be shooting the same damn boring factory ctgs. - now, what fun would that be?
: No one is saying the Lott isn't better than the .458 in some way and that it won't match .458 ballistics with less pressure. Obviously it will and does. Just look at the size of some of the British rounds. They were designed to reduce pressure without gaining any greater ballistics than what already worked. What worked was a 480gr. to 500gr. bulet at 2,100fps to 2,150fps. The .458 Win Mag will do that without excessive pressure, and do it today with around 70gr. of powder. If one wants to shoot 80gr. to 90gr. of powder, or even 100gr. of powder to do the same thing, have at it. For me, the .458 will be fine (or the .458 Alaskan - same difference) and have a bit less recoil and shorter action than the longer round. Of course my only need for such a cannon, if a need actually exists, is for big bears. For that, 350gr. to 400gr. Barnes will work just fine. If I ever go to Africa, and I'd love to, some day, the .458 Alaskan (same ballistics as the .458WM)will go with me, and do just fine, loaded to 2,200fps with 500gr. or 400gr. to 450gr. at 2,300fps. I won't be buying a .450 Lott for that one trip just because it does the same thing with 5,000 psi less pressure.
: Of course, "a man convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still".

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Daryl

"a gun without hammers is like a Spaniel without ears" King George V

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What's wrong with a .458	Tightloop	09/11/06 03:58 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Shanster	15/12/06 05:58 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DUGABOY1	10/11/06 07:36 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	hoppdoc	10/11/06 11:05 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	4seventy	10/11/06 12:03 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Tightloop	10/11/06 01:24 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	4seventy	12/11/06 07:49 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	475Guy	10/11/06 07:52 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DUGABOY1	15/12/06 10:09 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DarylS	17/12/06 07:25 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	458Win	07/01/07 02:24 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Bill_Cooley	02/03/08 12:59 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	4seventy	03/03/08 04:51 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Mike_McGuire	03/03/08 05:20 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Marrakai	03/03/08 10:13 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	9.3x57	04/03/08 09:27 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	JabaliHunter	04/03/08 10:44 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DarylS	05/03/08 03:47 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	JabaliHunter	05/03/08 05:52 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DarylS	05/03/08 02:07 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Sarg	05/03/08 05:51 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	BFaucett	12/03/08 12:38 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DarylS	12/03/08 01:19 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	4seventy	03/03/08 10:28 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DarylS	02/03/08 01:25 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	hoppdoc	02/03/08 03:28 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	escard	14/02/08 11:31 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	jro45	15/02/08 12:55 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Plains99	15/02/08 02:32 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Paul	15/02/08 06:22 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	chuck375	17/02/08 04:17 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DarylS	17/02/08 04:25 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	jro45	18/02/08 03:55 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	szihn	15/02/08 02:28 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	wellplugger	08/01/07 09:53 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	458Win	08/01/07 10:09 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	475Guy	07/01/07 05:24 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Indy	09/06/07 02:55 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	BigMike	10/06/07 10:35 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Indy	11/06/07 07:10 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	BigMike	11/06/07 09:15 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	458Win	07/01/07 06:18 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	475Guy	07/01/07 07:40 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	mickey	08/01/07 06:52 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	458Win	08/01/07 07:25 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	mickey	08/01/07 10:57 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Fossdal	08/01/07 09:35 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	wellplugger	09/01/07 04:04 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	458Win	09/01/07 05:34 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	es	09/01/07 12:35 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	SuperX	03/03/08 10:14 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DarylS	03/03/08 10:38 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	bonanza	03/03/08 10:45 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DGR375	03/03/08 10:45 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	4seventy	03/03/08 04:36 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Grizzly	10/11/06 10:58 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DarylS	13/11/06 04:27 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	es	05/12/06 09:47 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DarylS	07/12/06 03:43 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	hoppdoc	05/12/06 07:02 PM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	bonanza	10/11/06 11:44 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	475Guy	09/11/06 05:06 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Tightloop	09/11/06 05:56 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	4seventy	09/11/06 09:18 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	DarylS	10/11/06 04:06 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	bonanza	10/11/06 04:56 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Tightloop	10/11/06 04:56 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	hoppdoc	09/11/06 05:25 AM
Re: What's wrong with a .458	Scott	09/11/06 04:28 AM

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