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Marrakai
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Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!)
      04/11/06 02:32 AM

Yogi:
In reply to:

SphereTec...makes spheres of high accuracy using everything from ceramic to brass to stainless steel. I was contempalting trying some but definitely wanted to see if any experienced hand loaders had some input.



A couple of years ago I decided to experiment with round balls in the 12-bore. I started with pure lead 12-bore balls from the muzzle-loading suppliers, but quickly learned that they deform in the bore on firing, and fly all over the place. Shooting 16-bore pure lead balls in a 12-bore shot-cup was the next step, however results were just as bad.

Then I got the notion that solid steel balls would not deform (!), so I obtained a couple dozen polished steel ball bearings from the mob that rebuild automotive CV-joints, and loaded them up in AA-wads and shot them out of a cylinder-bore double I had lying around. Here is the result:



The two high ones were from the clean, slightly oily (?) barrel, the remainder went into about 3 1/2 inches, at 25 yards!

Turns out the wad was trying to crawl past the ball in the bore, pushing the ball off line before it exited the muzzle. Check out the recovered wads, very uneven damage to the shot-cup petals. Some petals were chopped off completely!



So...! The next step was to try to centre the ball in the shot-cup. I cut the over-powder part off a few 16-bore wads, inverted them in the bottom of the 12-bore shot-cup, and dropped the ball-bearing on top. The results improved slightly to 2 1/2 inches for 6 shots (3R + 3L), still not brilliant for 25 yards.



At least this time, the impressions on the wad petals were even all round (and none were chopped off!), showing that the ball-bearing remained centred in the bore.



At that point I gave up, assuming that no better than 2 1/2 inch groups at 25 yards (5-inches at 50 yds, 10-inches at 100 yards) could be obtained from a round ball under any circumstances.

Happy to be proven wrong at any time, though!



...and please don't burr up telling me its dangerous to shoot hardened steel ball bearings in pommie shotguns. I already know I'm mad, but with enough common sense (or blind luck!) to survive thus far!

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* Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Marrakai 29/07/06 04:35 PM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Chasseur   30/07/06 04:50 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) DarylS   03/11/06 07:25 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Yogi000   03/11/06 08:33 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) DarylS   04/11/06 06:05 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Yogi000   04/11/06 07:20 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) AdamTayler   04/11/06 12:03 PM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Marrakai   04/11/06 02:32 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) DarylS   05/11/06 03:01 PM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Marrakai   07/11/06 02:28 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) DarylS   07/11/06 03:13 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Yogi000   07/11/06 08:23 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Sarg   01/02/07 08:40 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Yogi000   08/02/07 06:02 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) DarylS   11/02/07 02:21 PM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Yogi000   20/02/07 05:50 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) tinker   20/02/07 07:33 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Yogi000   21/02/07 05:42 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) DarylS   07/11/06 02:45 PM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) DarylS   08/11/06 07:02 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Yogi000   01/02/07 05:00 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) 260rem   30/07/06 11:41 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Marrakai   30/07/06 05:44 PM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) hoppdoc   02/11/06 07:49 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Yogi000   02/11/06 08:16 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) tinker   02/11/06 09:22 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) hoppdoc   02/11/06 08:48 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) DarylS   03/11/06 03:53 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Yogi000   03/11/06 04:53 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) tinker   03/11/06 05:48 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Yogi000   03/11/06 06:51 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) DarylS   03/11/06 07:17 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) DarylS   03/11/06 05:28 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Yogi000   01/11/06 06:44 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Marrakai   01/11/06 09:17 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) DarylS   02/11/06 06:28 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) Yogi000   02/11/06 07:11 AM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) ALAN_MCKENZIE   29/07/06 11:47 PM
. * * Re: Shotgun Slugs (...again!) hoppdoc   29/07/06 10:05 PM

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