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Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO???
      25/09/06 10:00 PM

empirevr:
As John the Greek says, not everyone agrees with 500grains and 400NitroExpress....

Here's a telling paragraph or two on the 8-bore which might interest you, penned well into the smokeless era by R.C.F. Maugham, inveterate big game hunter, and His Majesty's Consul-General at Beira, Portugese East Africa, after the turn of the previous century;

"....no hunter in his right senses should place his blind trust in such a weapon as even the .450 cordite rifle to extricate him from the thousand and one dangers by which he is liable from day to day to be confronted in Africa. I therefore unhesitatingly advocate, in addition to the most perfected type of modern high-velocity weapon which we are ever likely to see, the inclusion of a sound, heavy rifle intended for use at close range, the shock of whose bullet, even if it should not instantly kill, will assuredly be sufficiently great to disable or turn a charging beast."

His recommendation?
"..a heavy eight-bore, which I look upon as the ideal weapon par excellance for this purpose".

And "For those who do not have the strength to use a heavy 8-bore"?
"I would suggest the adoption of a 10 or at least of a 12-bore paradox throwing a 1 3/4 ounce bullet, driven by a charge of 5 drams of black powder. This, in capable hands, should be sufficiently powerful to produce the desired stopping effect".


Holland & Holland apparently agreed, listing their 10-bore paradox "for rhinoceros, bison, and other kinds of large game" in the 1904 catalogue, and the 10-bore nitro paradox "for elephant, rhinoceros, bison, and other kinds of large game" in the 1910-12 catalogue. The 8-bore paradox was listed simply as an "Elephant Gun" in both catalogues.

There is a surprising degree of ignorance about the capability of bore-guns and paradox guns amongst those who have never used them. Sadly, with the cost of a single elephant or rhino in today's Africa, very few modern hunters are ever likely to discover those capabilities for themselves.




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* H&H 10 bore NITRO??? empirevr 24/09/06 08:41 PM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? mehulkamdar   27/09/06 03:25 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? 500grains   25/09/06 02:52 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? jaz   26/09/06 11:37 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? gatsby   26/09/06 01:24 PM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? Marrakai   26/09/06 10:21 PM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? empirevr   27/09/06 03:12 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? mehulkamdar   27/09/06 03:30 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? NitroXAdministrator   27/09/06 12:44 PM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? empirevr   28/09/06 10:01 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? pwm   27/09/06 04:20 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? empirevr   27/09/06 04:39 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? jaz   26/09/06 09:58 PM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? gatsby   25/09/06 03:37 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? 400NitroExpress   25/09/06 10:19 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? Marrakai   25/09/06 10:00 PM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? JohnTheGreek   25/09/06 11:16 PM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? 500grains   25/09/06 11:45 PM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? empirevr   26/09/06 01:00 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? gatsby   26/09/06 12:46 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? JohnTheGreek   26/09/06 12:24 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? gatsby   25/09/06 11:16 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? NitroXAdministrator   25/09/06 08:38 PM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? Double_Trouble   25/09/06 09:56 PM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? NitroXAdministrator   26/09/06 03:27 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? Double_Trouble   26/09/06 10:11 PM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? JohnTheGreek   25/09/06 09:33 PM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? empirevr   25/09/06 04:50 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? gatsby   25/09/06 08:42 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? empirevr   25/09/06 09:16 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? gatsby   25/09/06 09:41 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? empirevr   25/09/06 09:47 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? 500grains   25/09/06 10:15 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? empirevr   25/09/06 10:24 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? 500Nitro   25/09/06 10:07 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? empirevr   25/09/06 10:16 AM
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. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? empirevr   25/09/06 10:33 AM
. * * Re: H&H 10 bore NITRO??? 500Nitro   25/09/06 10:54 AM
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