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empirevr
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Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore
      14/09/06 05:03 AM

Well...

Thankyou once again Daryl that is some absolutely superb information you are giving me.

I fully agree with your statements,and of course i realise the difference that the size and weight of the round makes......merely, i was talking of actual preferences,and perhaps uses, then and now.......it seems knock down value has been exchanged for penetration values.

Now most of all the hunters use the .375 H&H it seems, yet before this,i can only guess the 500x3 bp or 577x3 pb,or perhaps even the smaller 450x3/3.25 was the main gun/round used generally......the most proliferent are the 500x3" bpe's.......

I adore your 8 bore info,and have no claim to having ever handled one let alone use it.

I once read something in a book i appear to have lost....due to moving no doubt...that had much info on W.W. Greener. It stated that the 8 bore was their most popular model,and more so...round. This was because the 4 bore,did not give such good penetration due to its sheer size versus its fpe/fps which im guessing wasnt at max,as it already was known to be horrid to fire.

I cannot remember if they gave preference to ball or conical, but the rifles advertised fired both.(paradox,no?)

Seeing as you have used the superb 12 bores, what can you say is the difference in strength between them and a normal 12 gauge shotgun of the age? half the weight,no?

Basically,if one was to create a smooth-bore rifle from an 8 shotty, what would need to be done,and would it be as safe,strong,and usable as the original rifle version?

Thankyou

Ben



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* 8 bore vs 4 bore empirevr 08/09/06 02:40 AM
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. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore DarylS   12/10/22 03:25 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore DarylS   08/09/06 03:00 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore empirevr   08/09/06 04:47 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore DarylS   08/09/06 08:35 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore 500Nitro   08/09/06 08:49 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore DarylS   08/09/06 12:03 PM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore bulldog563   09/09/06 08:10 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore empirevr   09/09/06 06:09 AM
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. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore empirevr   10/09/06 07:34 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore DarylS   11/09/06 01:08 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore empirevr   11/09/06 06:11 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore DarylS   11/09/06 02:57 PM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore empirevr   12/09/06 01:00 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore DarylS   12/09/06 05:51 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore empirevr   12/09/06 08:33 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore DarylS   13/09/06 02:42 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore empirevr   13/09/06 04:38 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore DarylS   13/09/06 09:02 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore empirevr   13/09/06 09:53 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore DarylS   14/09/06 12:50 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore empirevr   14/09/06 05:03 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore bulldog563   14/09/06 01:14 PM
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. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore Chasseur   14/09/06 05:20 PM
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. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore SAFARIKID   19/09/06 07:57 AM
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. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore empirevr   18/09/06 08:23 AM
. * * Re: 8 bore vs 4 bore mickey   16/09/06 11:07 AM
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