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JPK
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Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??
18/08/06 11:09 PM

Hopdoc,

The 450/400 enjoyed a reputation as the best all rounder before the advent of the 375H&H.

Just checking Chuck Hawks website for trajectories, there is substantial differences between the 375H&H and the 450/400. (the 450/400 is not actually listed so I substituted the 404 at 2150fps with a 400gr bullet) This difference, when sighting for a maximum bullet rise of three inches, amounted to a three and a half inch difference at 200yds using either open sights or scope. The 9.3x74 was in the middle between the two.

Also, from all I have read, killing a charging elephant, from a ballistics point of view, is relatively easy since the head will be lowered and thus little or no trunk will need to be penetrated between entrance point and brain.

If you are talking about more reliably stopping an elephant by turning it or knocking it down or out, even with a missed brain shot, then you are talking about 450 NE on up.

Rifle weight is an issue too. A scoped 450/400 will weigh 10 1/4lbs on the very light side and way on up from there. A scoped 375H&H bolt can easily be made up a pound lighter. A scoped 9.3x74 would go about 8 1/4 to 9 1/4lbs. I have found DR's much easier to carry in the feild, btw.

When you bump into trouble, you are probably going to need to rely on what ever sight set up you have. If your scope is on its unlikely you will have a whole lot of time to remove it, imo. That is one reason I'm a fan of the low powered variables.

FWIW, if I were to select a light DR today, as my second rifle for a multi DG and PG hunt it would probably be a 375 Flanged Magnum, or a 375H&H if I could find a suitable rifle that was light enough, or a 9.3x74R if I couldn't find the elusive light 375 Fl or H&H DR.

If I had a 9.3x74R in a nice light scoped DR I would not hesitate to use it based on its history - as well as that of the 9.3x62 - and 450 NE No 2's excellent results with it.

JPK

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9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	hoppdoc	17/08/06 07:23 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	bonanza	03/11/06 11:27 PM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	hoppdoc	04/11/06 02:45 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	bonanza	04/11/06 11:16 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	vigillinus	09/11/06 04:14 PM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	NE450No2	02/12/06 07:46 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	JPK	02/12/06 09:35 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	Sam	14/09/06 04:23 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	ozhunter	14/09/06 08:18 PM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	NitroX	22/09/06 06:09 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	DarylS	17/08/06 01:17 PM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	NE450No2	17/08/06 04:21 PM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	DarylS	18/08/06 01:00 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	butchloc	18/08/06 05:45 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	hoppdoc	18/08/06 11:27 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	JPK	18/08/06 12:52 PM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	NE450No2	18/08/06 02:43 PM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	hoppdoc	18/08/06 07:31 PM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	JPK	18/08/06 11:09 PM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	500grains	19/08/06 01:09 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	hoppdoc	19/08/06 04:51 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	NE450No2	19/08/06 05:02 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	JPK	21/08/06 12:26 PM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	NE450No2	21/08/06 03:19 PM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	JPK	22/08/06 01:51 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	butchloc	22/08/06 04:36 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	400NitroExpress	22/08/06 04:49 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	Double_Trouble	22/08/06 05:19 AM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	JPK	17/08/06 11:45 PM
Re: 9.3x74 DOUBLE vs 375H&H BOLT-WHICH IS BEST??	JPK	17/08/06 01:15 PM

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