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mickey
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      24/12/03 01:12 PM

I was pointed to this fella and this site and couldn't believe what he is saying. His handle is cjishere2 and, according to himself, is the world's expert on just about anything. I almost registered just to point out to him what an idiot he is but it is the Christmas Season.

So far what I have read is not dangerous but he has these guys sitting on his knee and lapping up all of his BS.

For loads of laughs go here:

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DOUBLE RIFLES

Leo - Since you brought up double rifles, I thought you might like this post. It comes, almost word for word, but in a slightly different format, from what I wrote in one of my ELMER AND JACK posts.

A word about double rifles, Elmer Keith loved 'em and owned several, some of which he kept, in cases, under his bed. Jack O'Connor was less fond of the double rifle and its inherent limitations.

For, by and large, double rifles are fine for short range work but terrible for longer range shooting due to their barrel taper and, as a result, their bullets crossing down range, usually within 100 yards. This is something that cannot be adjusted for with sights, so far as I know, further limiting their use to short range work.

Picture, for example, the left barrel of a double rifle, of necessity, with a larger chamber area, to accommodate the seating of a cartridge, with case, as opposed to that same barrels bullet exit hole where there is no need to accommodate a case. At some point this left to right taper will send a bullet out to a range, usually within 100 yards, where it crosses flight paths with a bullet fired from the right barrel, which is, again, of necessity, tapered just the opposite, right to left. Within a reasonable distance of the X point, where the bullets cross, let's say a paper plate size area, maybe, 9 inches wide, both before and after the X, well, that's about where a double rifle is going to be usefully accurate. Most are built so the X occurs sooner, in range, rather than later since these are typically viewed as short range rifles and not very many gun smiths are, in truth, expert enough to regulate a double rifle so as to change bullet flight path.

More often than not, if buying used, as Elmer, typically, did, you have to find out what load and bullet works best in your double rifle, and this is why most doubles are custom made, so the buyer can specify what load and bullet they wish to fire, and then stick with it by filing the iron sights accordingly. If you change loads and bullets, thereby changing point of impact, you have to refile or replace the iron sights.

Plus, there are no cheap and good double rifles as compared, price wise, with good bolt action rifles.

CJ


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