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JPK
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Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??
27/05/06 08:31 AM

Everything I've read and my limited experience too tells me that Mac is wrong about stopping a charge.

A 375H&H, 450/400, 450NE...are all equal in stopping a charge when the brain is hit. But stopping a charge or turning a charge without a CNS hit becomes more likely the larger the bullet in weight and diameter and the faster, within reason, that it is going.

Referenced in the 45/70 thread and available on african-hunter.com is the article by Ganyana reveiwing statistics of bad encounters with elephants by citizen hunters in Zim. The short version is that those with 375H&H's got killed or injured every time, those with 450NE class crtridges got injured less that 40% of the time and those with even larger cartridges, even less.

The 450/400 may be more than a 375H&H but it is a whole lot less than a 450NE class cartridge.

See Buzz Charlton's video, and count the number of times when he says, "...that elephant would have dropped if a 500 grain bullet had been used..." or something similar. He says it regarding his own shooting and failure to hit the CNS while turning a charge with his 416 Rigby. This is not coincidence, and the 450/400 is no 416 Rigby either.

JPK

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450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	hoppdoc	27/05/06 02:58 AM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	DDouble	06/06/06 09:45 AM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	ozhunter	06/06/06 10:37 AM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	NE450No2	03/08/06 03:04 PM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	Preacher	03/08/06 08:11 PM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	Dutch44	03/08/06 11:48 PM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	DDouble	27/05/06 10:26 PM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	Marrakai	27/05/06 11:02 AM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	DUGABOY1	27/05/06 07:20 AM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	JPK	27/05/06 08:31 AM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	DUGABOY1	27/05/06 11:12 PM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	Anonymous	28/05/06 05:13 AM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	DDouble	28/05/06 07:53 AM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	JPK	29/05/06 11:50 PM
Re: 450/400- ??AN ELEPHANT STOPPER??	kweber	27/05/06 06:55 AM

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