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DPhillips
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Re: dangerous game
      21/05/06 04:21 AM

NitroX,
I'm probably the last person here that should be claiming what is adequate or inadequate for African Dangerous Game, because I have not hunted, nor have taken any. I did get mighty close to Elephant, Cape Buff and Lion while in Zimbabwe last year, and have a healthy respect for those animals.

I've never been able to stomach the full details of Lupo's "hunt". When I first started reading it, I was reading about the elephant first and the tactic of him lounging in camp while the elephant was located via ultralight then radio communication was given to the PH, kind of turns my stomach. It smacks of the days that Bert Klineburger was searching for (and would only shoot) the world record moose here in Alaska. Bert would fly an area that supposedly held a monster bull until he found the animal, land as close as possible, then shoot the poor beast. Legal in those days, but wasn't hunting. On top of that, a respected PH on another forum has said:
In reply to:

On the subject of South African Elephant and Lion hunts - if anyone thinks they're hunting truly wild Elephant & Lion there, then they're sadly mistaken. Those species anywhere in SA are very well habituated to vehicles and humans at best.......





At any rate, I thought I'd tally up Lupo's shots and "charges" to see how his 45/70 stacked up. These are numbers from his story on Garrett's website. I don't have any other record of his shooting.

Cape Buffalo:
First shot from ~80 yards into the shoulder.
Charge.
2nd shot from ~60 yards just below the chin in the neck.
Animal goes down.
3rd shot for the finisher.

Leopard:
Charge.
First shot from 6 inches into the eye.

Lion:
First shot ~50 yards into the shoulder.
Charge.
Second shot ~30 yards, brain shot.

White Rhino:
First shot ~100 yards behind the shoulder.
Immediately followed with a second shot into the shoulder.
Third shot (no distance noted only that the rhino was heading for a ravine) side brain shot.

Elephant:
First shot ~60 yards side brain shot into the "temple".
Immediately followed with another shot into the "rear spine".
Third shot from ~10 feet for "insurance".

Hippo:
A loud click from Lupo not taking his safety off allowed the hippo to turn and face the hunters (insinuating the hippo was either charging [again] or about to).
First shot from less than 10 feet frontal brain shot.
Second shot same distance 2 inches over.

The reason Mr. Lupo did this? Why did he take his Marlin 45/70 to South Africa to go after the big five? In his own words:
In reply to:

I HAD DONE IT! THE FIRST MAN IN HISTORY TO TAKE THE AFRICAN DANGEROUS GAME BIG SIX WITH A LEVER ACTION MARLIN RIFLE WITH GARRETT CARTRIDGES 45-70 HAMMERHEADS! I am awaiting confirmation of that fact from the Guinness World Record Book people. Now do you want to talk about PARTY!




A more disgusting display of low rent self-promotion and ego building, I don't think I've ever read.

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* dangerous game 45s_save_lives 19/05/06 04:31 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game allenday   20/05/06 10:50 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game SAHUNT   21/05/06 12:34 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game 45s_save_lives   21/05/06 03:45 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game tinker   22/05/06 04:25 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game EricD   22/05/06 05:17 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game ALAN_MCKENZIE   21/05/06 01:10 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game SAHUNT   21/05/06 05:56 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game ALAN_MCKENZIE   21/05/06 07:15 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game SAHUNT   21/05/06 08:26 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game ALAN_MCKENZIE   21/05/06 08:46 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game SAHUNT   21/05/06 09:40 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game JPK   22/05/06 01:47 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game 500grains   23/05/06 01:58 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game 45s_save_lives   23/05/06 05:18 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game NitroXAdministrator   23/05/06 06:21 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game 500grains   23/05/06 07:08 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game bulldog563   22/05/06 04:39 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game JPK   22/05/06 11:23 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game hoppdoc   23/05/06 07:58 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game jorge   23/05/06 09:29 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game JPK   23/05/06 10:20 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game 500grains   23/05/06 10:13 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game NitroXAdministrator   23/05/06 06:25 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game BFaucett   24/05/06 12:41 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game hoppdoc   24/05/06 01:26 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game NitroXAdministrator   24/05/06 03:23 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game ALAN_MCKENZIE   23/05/06 11:07 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game hoppdoc   23/05/06 10:20 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game 45s_save_lives   22/05/06 07:18 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game NitroXAdministrator   22/05/06 01:30 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game BFaucett   22/05/06 08:51 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game Grizzly   22/05/06 09:38 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game luv2safari   22/05/06 12:54 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game 45s_save_lives   22/05/06 10:31 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game JPK   22/05/06 11:17 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game Grizzly   21/05/06 02:33 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game Charles_Helm   21/05/06 04:17 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game NitroXAdministrator   20/05/06 05:25 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game DPhillips   21/05/06 04:21 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game 45s_save_lives   21/05/06 09:39 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game hoppdoc   21/05/06 01:02 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game DPhillips   21/05/06 12:44 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game NitroXAdministrator   22/05/06 01:21 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game bulldog563   20/05/06 07:42 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game 500grains   20/05/06 02:42 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game Charles_Helm   21/05/06 04:14 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game hoppdoc   19/05/06 08:35 PM
. * * Re: dangerous game 45s_save_lives   20/05/06 09:06 AM
. * * Re: dangerous game luv2safari   20/05/06 09:47 AM
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