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Re: 405 win questions
12/12/05 09:18 AM

The Hornady soft points are very fragile bullets, at least the 100 or so I have personally shot, so I wouldn't recommend than for anything bigger than a deer, roo in oz. Having said that, if you loaded 400 gr pills to 2050 fps (doable even in the M1895 Winchester) I would question your honesty if you stated it didn't work as well as a 416 Rigby, Remington, etc.

I personally cannot tell the difference in "killing power" between a 300gr Woodleigh at ~ 2450 fps fired from a 405 Win (M1895 Winchester) and a 350 gr Speer or 400 gr Hornady fired at 2750 fps or 2620 fps from the 416 Rigby. All three loads generate practically identical tissue trauma. The Rigby may penetrate a tad farther don't know for sure as all have been pass throughs ie no head on or rear on shots taken. Final note, all the loads I have discussed out-perform the 300gr and 325gr Barnes X bullets fired from the 416 Rigby at the ridiculous muzzle velocities of 2700 fps for either. The Barnes bullets don't do as much damage as a 300 Win mag does, they just pencil through after supposedly shedding their pedals (that last statement assumes that the Barnes expanded in the first place, something we simply do not know).

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iwantadouble,

The 405 Winchester case is very stout! It would take something like 90,000 psi of chamber pressure to destroy one. It only takes around 75,000 psi of chamber pressure to blow the primer pocket on a mauser case head (308 Win, 30-06, 8mm Mauser, etc).

Scott

Edited by ScottS (12/12/05 09:21 AM)

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