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For a 12 bore /223 combination gun I would first decide whether its really a shotgun that will you take that fox thats sitting out at 60 / 70 yards, or are you looking at as a nice walk about rifle for foxes etc but with a shot barrel so you can shoot that crow in top of tree etc. For the former a little red dot sight or open sights would work well. For the latter the ideal is a 3-9x36 of good make on a 1” tube or similar on a detachable mount. You should be able to get it nice and low. At higher magnification you still get a really good image yet wind it back for close range or take it off when stop by the duck pond when you are on your way home.

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A combination 12-b/.223 for me is a farm walkabout gun. The shotgun would be for rabbits,ducks, hares, pigeons, foxes, pest birds, starlings, crows etc. Running and fying shots. A 1x scope seems to work.Ideally just a bead but removing and replacing a scope with Valley non quick detachable mounts is not fast. A red dot might work.

A red dot will not suffice for the .223 barrel. On a bolt action I'd want a 8x scope. On a combination acts might suffice I might have a 4x or 5x currently? I forget. Head shots on rabbits, hares, foxes. A larger powered scope magnucation is very useful, an 8x or 6x. A lesser power limits the headshot range. But the 1x for the shotgun is a must. So a 4x or 5x suffices for the rifle

My 12-bore/7x65R barrel set would be fine with a 1-4x scope. I'm yet to get brass for the 7x65R.

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John aka NitroX

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