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Re: new double gun
      08/04/25 03:04 AM

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Lancaster,

I am a complete novice regarding needle fire guns. My understanding of guns completely skips needle fired guns.

In the 1850s or thereabout, were needle fire cartridges readily available? I ask because the cartridge looks beyond the capability of a number of people.

I asume oine makes a bunch of paper casings using a mandrel, loads them with several drams of powder, insert a wad with a percussion cap somehow located in the center, drop in an oz of shot, and seal the top. Easier said than done.

How does one keep the percussion cap cenered with the wad? Were wads mad with a recess to hold the cap?

Is the paper nitrated so it burns or at least partially burns?

Do the needles need to be replaced often? It seems like they would be damaged or corroded.

The entire system seems very complex to me.




yes, you could buy them loaded from the factory or you have the components - case , wad with primer and bullets for rifle cartridges. it was also common you get a bullet mould with your rifle and cast your own. you had in your relaoding stuff a powder dipper for measure the blackpowder. it was not terrible difficult for people who came from muzzle loader.

the use of percussion caps was possible but in allmost all cases you get factory mad wads in all possible caliber with a primer pill in the base. the primer pill was strong and very reliable.
the gun must be cleaned completely after shooting like a muzzle loader. thats the deal with blackpowder. of course, today with musket primer its a littlebit more for the needle but in the good old time with the pill and without any metal the needle would work sometimes thousends of shots.
anyway, making a new needle is part of the hobby.

"I asume oine makes a bunch of paper casings using a mandrel, loads them with several drams of powder, insert a wad with a percussion cap somehow located in the center, drop in an oz of shot, and seal the top. Easier said than done."

it is more less like you say

never see anything they use nitratet paper.

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