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Re: One Day WDM Bell went to London
      12/01/25 12:29 AM

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And a .222 will kill in the right place as well as a .243 or a .270, whereas a bullet from any of them in the wrong place will not work at all.




True and not true. A .22 CF in the shoulder will be a surface wound. Unless some super modern heavy .22 bullet of wonderful construction. Not sure such bullets exist?

A .243 90, 100 gr of good construction will probably work far better. A 6.5mm, .270, 7mm, .30 will drop it kill that deer. The margin for less precise shots is far superior.

Sure a .222 or .223 will kill a deer with a brain shot, heart shot, or lung shot. The later with a more fragile bullet. Hit a bone, a rib, maybe not.

There is a reason sub standard choices are not standard.

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Bell initially gave up on his Fraser 6.5 Mannlicher Schoenauer carbine because the ammunition was unreliable. This was common with most British sporting ammunition of the day. Misfires were common, Cases rupturing and blowing gas into the face of the shooter were a constant hazard. The most reliable cartridges of the time were military - the British .303 and the Mauser 7mm as made by DMW, and this is what he used for elephant.




I thought the lesser effect of the pointed Spitzer bullets were part of it? eg the .303.

The long round nosed 173 gr 7mm FMJ bullets were far superior.


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But what many people don't realise nowadays since he is such a legend for using the 7x57 on elephant, is the fact that by the outbreak of WW1, and then his safaris after the war, he had settled on the .318 Westley Richards with the 250 grain bullet as the best cartridge for his style of elephant hunting. He used several .318's also.
From about 1912 onwards he was a .318 Express shooter, as far as African game go. This puts him in line with many other hunters in the British empire.






Very true. He recommends the .318 WR in one of his books, as his "heavy" choice. And a .318 and a .450 for another safari hunter.

Interesting thread. Thanks for reopening. I remembering it as yesterday.

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