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Rule303
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Re: Killing vs. Stopping.
      23/10/23 08:47 PM

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One hunt elephants with cartridges caliber 458 and above, and then one can do without unnecessary animal cruelty like shooting in the legs and so on.




Yes and No. Miss a vital with any calibre and the animal is still moving. Now when we are talking Stopping Cartridges we are talking about stopping the animal in a charge generally after the first shot has not done its job. So breaking and Elephants leg in these situations is a very wise move. It stops it and a finishing shot can be delivered. Don't break the leg, a very good target and miss the brain, you end up dead. From what I have read some of the so called stopping cartridges do not stop the Ele with a near miss of the brain, a leg bone shot does.

If the Elephant has been wounded and is moving away then a spine, hip or leg shot is recommended to stop it.

Hunting Elephant with a 458 is shown to be no more effective than with a 416 or 404. If you can't handle a 458 but can a 375, the 375 is the better cartridge for you.

Now if the Elephant is charging you and is not wounded I would be going for a brain or spine shot.

Remembering most other animals cans till move on 3 legs and more susceptible to a near miss of the brain from a large calibre. Least ways that is what I have been told and witnessed with domestic cattle.

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* Killing vs. Stopping. bonanza 27/06/10 10:07 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   09/10/23 10:56 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   10/10/23 10:17 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. HeymSR20   19/10/23 09:58 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   19/10/23 01:10 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. DarylS   20/10/23 04:21 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   20/10/23 07:11 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   20/10/23 08:18 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   20/10/23 08:28 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   23/10/23 08:47 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   20/10/23 08:46 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   23/10/23 08:49 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   23/10/23 09:58 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   24/10/23 08:11 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   20/10/23 09:02 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   20/10/23 09:16 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   23/10/23 04:06 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   23/10/23 04:08 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   23/10/23 08:21 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   20/10/23 08:09 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Ndumo   30/07/10 05:09 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. ozhunter   31/07/10 02:39 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. chuck375   24/10/23 09:01 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   24/10/23 04:26 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   24/10/23 06:32 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. chuck375   28/10/23 01:29 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   28/10/23 02:27 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   28/10/23 10:01 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   28/10/23 06:00 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   29/10/23 11:42 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   28/10/23 09:25 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. chuck375   29/10/23 03:25 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. DarylS   29/10/23 04:33 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   24/10/23 08:25 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. szihn   24/10/23 02:59 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Rule303   24/10/23 08:14 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Ben   31/07/10 07:50 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Paul   03/08/10 12:03 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. 93mouse   03/08/10 04:55 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   29/06/10 12:57 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. xausa   29/06/10 01:12 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. *DELETED* grandveneur   29/06/10 01:24 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. *DELETED* grandveneur   29/06/10 01:50 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. *DELETED* grandveneur   29/06/10 01:56 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. poprivit   29/06/10 09:08 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. mauserand9mm   29/06/10 09:56 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Ben   30/06/10 09:15 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Ripp   30/06/10 01:00 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   30/06/10 04:19 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Ripp   30/06/10 11:58 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. 93mouse   01/07/10 12:23 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. gwh   21/07/10 08:48 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. bigmaxx   22/07/10 02:45 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. andrevannibos   29/07/10 04:44 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. 93mouse   29/07/10 07:51 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. Mike_Bailey   30/06/10 05:42 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. 404bearslayer   30/06/10 07:05 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. NitroXAdministrator   29/06/10 01:05 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   29/06/10 12:38 AM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. ozhunter   27/06/10 11:54 PM
. * * Re: Killing vs. Stopping. grandveneur   29/06/10 01:09 AM

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