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HeymSR20
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Re: Killing vs. Stopping.
19/10/23 09:58 AM

I will admit to limited experience of shooting and stopping big game rifles on big grumpy animals. But I am not convinced that horse power is the be all and end all of knocking any animal off its feet and rendering it completely unconscious, which is after all what you want when stopping an animal from either charging you or running off into the deepest darkest bush and depriving you of its carcass.

If a 100gn 243 bullet with a bit under 2,000 ft lbs is perfectly good for a 50 or a 100kg animal, then in proportion for a 1,000kg buffalo or a 7,000 kg elephant you need a lot bigger and a lot more horsepower than a 500gn bullet with 5,000 ft lbs.

Surely whats required for a good stopping rifle is a rifle that the hunter shoots and can hit a small target instinctively, and that then has a bullet with stout enough construction and enough energy and shockwave to cause catastrophic damage to the central nervous system so the animal collapses and the same time doing enough damage to major blood vessels so that it suffers catastrophic loss of blood to it’s major organs that it never regains consciousness. And a good knowledge of an animals anatomy helps as well. Provided the bullet has the penetration and is in the right spot it will work. I would question how much a bigger gun compensates for lack of good shot placement.

Certainly my experience on smaller animals is that a bullet from a 300 win mag in the guts will still go a long way. Whereas a 243 through the vitals will be dead on the spot.

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Killing vs. Stopping.	bonanza	27/06/10 10:07 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	09/10/23 10:56 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	NitroX	10/10/23 10:17 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	HeymSR20	19/10/23 09:58 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	NitroX	19/10/23 01:10 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	DarylS	20/10/23 04:21 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	20/10/23 07:11 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Rule303	20/10/23 08:18 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	20/10/23 08:28 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Rule303	23/10/23 08:47 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	20/10/23 08:46 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Rule303	23/10/23 08:49 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	23/10/23 09:58 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Rule303	24/10/23 08:11 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	20/10/23 09:02 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	20/10/23 09:16 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	NitroX	23/10/23 04:06 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	NitroX	23/10/23 04:08 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	23/10/23 08:21 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	20/10/23 08:09 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Ndumo	30/07/10 05:09 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	ozhunter	31/07/10 02:39 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	chuck375	24/10/23 09:01 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	NitroX	24/10/23 04:26 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	24/10/23 06:32 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	chuck375	28/10/23 01:29 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	28/10/23 02:27 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Rule303	28/10/23 10:01 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	28/10/23 06:00 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Rule303	29/10/23 11:42 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	NitroX	28/10/23 09:25 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	chuck375	29/10/23 03:25 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	DarylS	29/10/23 04:33 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	NitroX	24/10/23 08:25 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	szihn	24/10/23 02:59 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Rule303	24/10/23 08:14 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Ben	31/07/10 07:50 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Paul	03/08/10 12:03 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	93mouse	03/08/10 04:55 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	29/06/10 12:57 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	xausa	29/06/10 01:12 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping. DELETED	grandveneur	29/06/10 01:24 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping. DELETED	grandveneur	29/06/10 01:50 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping. DELETED	grandveneur	29/06/10 01:56 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	poprivit	29/06/10 09:08 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	mauserand9mm	29/06/10 09:56 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Ben	30/06/10 09:15 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Ripp	30/06/10 01:00 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	NitroX	30/06/10 04:19 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Ripp	30/06/10 11:58 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	93mouse	01/07/10 12:23 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	gwh	21/07/10 08:48 PM
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Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	andrevannibos	29/07/10 04:44 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	93mouse	29/07/10 07:51 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	Mike_Bailey	30/06/10 05:42 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	404bearslayer	30/06/10 07:05 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	NitroX	29/06/10 01:05 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	29/06/10 12:38 AM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	ozhunter	27/06/10 11:54 PM
Re: Killing vs. Stopping.	grandveneur	29/06/10 01:09 AM

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