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Lethal Ball
      31/07/23 10:12 AM

Can anyone supply information on lethal ball rounds?

I want to thank 85lc (Roy) for pursuing the Jeffery records and sending me the daybook entry for my Jeffery 12 bore boxlock shot and ball gun, made in 1931 by Harry Leonard. I bought this at H&H in London years ago and the salesman told me that it had been in India before returning to the UK and being restocked. It has 32” barrels, 3¼” chambers, sideclips, two folding leaf sights marked 50 and 100, and according to the records was originally choked ¾ and full. At some point it was opened to ¼ and ½ and I shoot sporting clays with it every week.

As Roy mentioned in his thread on the Jeffery records, some of the handwriting is not clear and it took me a while to puzzle out one entry, which reads "leaf sights for lethal ball".

A little googling produced a long thread on Lyon and Lyon on the DoubleGunshop BBS from 2010. Pete Mazur contributed this: https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubb...amp;type=thread, containing the following:

‘The firm [Lyon and Lyon] invented their "Lethal Ball" shotgun bullet which was made for them by Kynoch. This bullet was introduced to compete with Rodda's "Rotax" bullet, Manton & Co's "Contractile" bullet, and Holland & Holland's "Paradox". These bullets were for use against dangerous soft-skinned game. The Lethal Ball could be used in cylinder or choked barrels or barrels with Paradox type rifling. It was spherical and made of two (later four) soft iron discs interlocking at right angles. These were placed in a mould into which the lead was poured. On impact, the lead pieces became detached from the iron frame. The bullets were not accurate over anything but very short range mainly because they were undersized (about 16 bore) in order to cope with choke and rifling (similar ammunition was issued to the Home Guard in the Second World War).’

If the H&H salesman was correct in saying that this gun came back from India, and as Lyon and Lyon was a Calcutta firm, it might have been built for a customer there who specified that it should be set up for lethal ball. I shot slugs out of it once when it was new to me but don’t remember the distance or group size.

Any further information or speculation on lethal ball would be welcome.

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* Lethal Ball LGF 31/07/23 10:12 AM
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. * * Re: Lethal Ball Nemo   01/08/23 04:56 AM
. * * Re: Lethal Ball 85lc   02/08/23 09:08 AM
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