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Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,,
      30/06/22 01:09 AM

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So then my next question on the performance you experienced is what were the impact velocities on the game animals you hit with the Accubonds out of your .300 RUM? As you know well, muzzle velocity is one thing, but what actually matters is the actual impact velocity on the animal at 200 yards or whatever the distance was.

I am not arguing or disagreeing with what you said, just trying to establish a better frame of reference.

I do not shoot any of the RUM's or the Nosler chamberings. Had a 26 Nosler at one point and got rid of it. Too be honest when I thought about it after reading your post, I don't think I have ever used an Accubond our of anything that is a high velocity chambering. No real reason for that other than I have been shooting a lot of monometal offerings in recent years and that is what I usually had in the fast cartridges.

I have used Accubonds in the .270 Win and they have always worked great...that being 130 or 140 grain bullets at their respective velocities. Also 165 grain in a .30-06. The 225 grain bullets out of a .338 Win Mag and 260 and 300's out of a .375 H&H. So I have not really strained them with ultra high velocity cartridges...they have always had E-tips, Barnes, CEB or Peregrine leaving the barrel.

I have used the A-frames a fair amount over the years...when I could get them...but again out of more "moderate" chamberings when it comes to muzzle velocity. They always do what they are suppose to as those who have used them a fair bit know.





The impact velocity was on the higher side..I had those 180s going 3370fps..shots in Afica are much closer than most of what I do here in Montana..would say they were 150 yrds or less..some much less..

I shot an impala one day fore leopard bait and blew the fetus right out of the doe..

First animal I shot was a waterbuck..took for shots to finally put it down..it dropped on every shot and got back up

I have had very good results in my 280AI with the accubonds..but.. also much lower velocity and most shots are 300 yards or more..the last Ibex was 430 ..




Well I doubt I have on my personal hunts or with clients I was guiding, seen impact velocity with Accubonds that exceeded 3100 fps. My closest impact velocity was probably from around 3100 fps with a 110 grain Accubond out of a 25-06. It certainly seemed to have performed as expected on a mulie and exited the off side. Outside of that particular instance I doubt I have had more than a handful of impact velocities that exceeded 3000 fps and most have probably been down in the 2400 to 2900 fps from the various cartridges I have used them in.

It would be interesting to hear of others experiences with impact velocities exceeding 3100 fps. For the most part, when I have recovered Accubonds they were nice mushrooms and had weight retentions that were similar to what you would have for weight retention with their Partitions, as has been claimed by Nosler. Of course the Partitions are not bonded, like the A-frames, but with the partition they generally turn in weight retentions of around 55 to 60% with the entire front portion of lead core gone.

Generally I have leaned towards full monometal bullets or monometal rear shank bullets like the North Fork or Trophy Bonded in recent years. For the most part they offer high BC's and you can drop back a notch or two in bullet weight and have higher muzzle velocities.
And on that note, I am getting ready to order some of the Hammer Bullets to give them a try.

So many bullets to try these days that you just can't keep up with it. Not enough time, money and in many cases you cannot depend on availability.




My experiences with Accubonds along with an extensive test I posted years ago where GUNS AND AMMO tested what they felt were the top 10 hunting bullets, they do perform very similar to partitions with 50 to 60% weight retention.. With the Swift Scirocco's --they seem to be in the upper 70% to low 80% out of my 300RUM..The jacket on the Scirocco is considerably thicker than the Accubonds.. The A-Frames I have recovered are near 90%.. which is why I prefer them.. I also prefer them over the Barnes on elk.. I feel they hit harder with their mushrooming effect..I base that on dozens of elk.. along with dozens of PG in Africa.. but, each to their own, just what I prefer..

On a more positive note for the accubonds, my findings are they are easier to get to shoot well ..and shoot incredibly well in my 280AI.. Factory loads are 3 shots touching at 100yards.. close enough for me..

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* Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp 18/06/22 05:32 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, 85lc   18/06/22 05:58 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   18/06/22 06:55 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, 93x64mm   18/06/22 08:33 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, NitroXAdministrator   18/06/22 09:18 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   19/06/22 04:01 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, crshelton   18/06/22 10:59 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   19/06/22 04:10 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, crshelton   19/06/22 06:50 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   19/06/22 07:27 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, crshelton   19/06/22 08:11 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, ThreeThreeEight   19/06/22 09:52 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   20/06/22 01:18 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, 85lc   20/06/22 07:48 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   21/06/22 03:52 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, NitroXAdministrator   21/06/22 04:57 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   21/06/22 10:43 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, DarylS   23/06/22 02:59 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, NitroXAdministrator   23/06/22 08:02 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   23/06/22 11:05 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, NitroXAdministrator   24/06/22 07:26 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, NitroXAdministrator   25/06/22 08:42 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, ThreeThreeEight   26/06/22 05:14 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, NitroXAdministrator   26/06/22 05:11 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   27/06/22 01:53 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, NitroXAdministrator   27/06/22 06:24 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, ThreeThreeEight   28/06/22 04:15 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   28/06/22 04:18 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, NitroXAdministrator   28/06/22 09:41 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   28/06/22 11:55 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, ThreeThreeEight   29/06/22 12:37 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, crshelton   27/06/22 12:50 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   27/06/22 01:13 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   26/06/22 09:48 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, NitroXAdministrator   24/06/22 07:35 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Rule303   24/06/22 09:03 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   26/06/22 01:45 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, NitroXAdministrator   26/06/22 05:07 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   27/06/22 01:21 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   26/06/22 01:50 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   23/06/22 03:19 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, DarylS   23/06/22 09:08 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, ThreeThreeEight   23/06/22 10:08 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   23/06/22 11:23 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, DarylS   23/06/22 02:36 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, ThreeThreeEight   28/06/22 04:07 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, NitroXAdministrator   28/06/22 09:48 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, ThreeThreeEight   29/06/22 12:48 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   29/06/22 02:04 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, ThreeThreeEight   29/06/22 09:42 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   29/06/22 11:10 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, ThreeThreeEight   30/06/22 12:47 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   30/06/22 01:09 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, ThreeThreeEight   30/06/22 02:51 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   30/06/22 03:10 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   30/06/22 04:57 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   30/06/22 05:00 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, DarylS   29/06/22 10:25 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, Ripp   23/06/22 01:28 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, 93x64mm   20/06/22 09:30 PM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, ThreeThreeEight   21/06/22 03:00 AM
. * * Re: Gunwerks New Nexus Rifle.. switch barrel,, 85lc   19/06/22 02:00 AM

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