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I only paid $1,000 for my 1886 .45-90 and it took ele and buff in Africa with 450 grain mono metal solids at 2150 fps. No scope sights either.
The 450 grain Kodiak FMJ at 2150 shot through buff making them DRT. American Bison in Texas also.

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Our handloaded 300 grain Nosler PP at 2200 fps whacked PG and nailed a big male leopard to the sand.

Sort of takes the mystery and exotic romance out African animals does it not? Maybe that is why certain RSA DG PHs hate American hunters bringing our "big" gun down.

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If they bring down 45/70s without knowing what they are doing, for probably good reason.

As silly if Brits kept saying they want to use a .577/450 M-H ...

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PS the 1886 45-70 nailed buff too. It seems that with the proper .458 bullet, 1800 t0 1900 fps is the killing threshold.

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I am sure it can work adequately, 75% of the time ....

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NOT the odds I want hunting buffalo..

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