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Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....
29/10/20 06:19 AM

+1

Those bigger guns are a definite improvement for sure.

Jack Lott, the creator of the .458 Lott and of course a well-known fan of bigger is better, got curious about the Philippines Insurrection "Charging Moros" story that drove US Army development of the .45 ACP. He wrote an article about it many years ago and totally debunked it. I've got a copy around someplace. The problem w/ the previous guns, the Colt .38 Colts involved really anemic ammo and the guns were junk. Even General Hatcher admitted that. Lott dug into the after action reports and Army personnel were complaining that their M1897 Winchester 12 ga pump guns w/ buckshot and their Krag .30-40's were not always effective at stopping rushes by Moros...so how could the .38 be singled out as a loser!

I have a monograph here on US Army Trials of the 1907 Luger in..... 7.65/.30 Luger. Some of the cavalry units issued these pistols reported "stopping power" as a feature of the gun!

The whole subject is fraught with inconsistencies, contradictions and...as you say...marketing BS for sure!

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Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	13/10/20 12:47 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	DarylS	13/10/20 03:31 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	tinker	13/10/20 07:57 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	13/10/20 01:18 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Rule303	20/10/20 08:59 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	29/10/20 03:16 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	9.3x57	29/10/20 04:07 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	29/10/20 04:40 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	9.3x57	29/10/20 06:19 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	29/10/20 07:41 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	DarylS	29/10/20 09:53 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	30/10/20 12:03 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Rule303	31/10/20 09:07 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Rod4861	31/10/20 03:15 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Checkman	08/05/21 12:47 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	DarylS	08/05/21 01:08 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Checkman	08/05/21 01:54 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	08/05/21 11:40 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Checkman	08/05/21 01:03 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	04/11/20 05:21 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	21/10/20 04:01 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Rule303	21/10/20 06:13 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	9.3x57	21/10/20 11:32 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	lancaster	26/10/20 06:30 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	DarylS	26/10/20 06:41 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	26/10/20 12:31 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	9.3x57	21/10/20 04:26 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	DarylS	21/10/20 03:47 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	EDELWEISS	09/05/21 02:09 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	NitroX	13/10/20 05:48 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	14/10/20 01:10 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	aromakr	14/10/20 02:44 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	DarylS	14/10/20 03:24 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	14/10/20 12:27 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Vladymere	14/10/20 01:03 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Postman	14/10/20 10:52 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	15/10/20 12:26 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Marrakai	15/10/20 02:35 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	16/10/20 12:41 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Marrakai	18/10/20 12:02 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	FrankS	18/10/20 05:33 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	NitroX	13/10/20 05:53 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	CptCurl	19/10/20 10:24 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	NitroX	20/10/20 03:30 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	NitroX	26/10/20 03:13 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	27/10/20 12:07 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	NitroX	27/10/20 10:59 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Rule303	28/10/20 08:39 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	NitroX	28/10/20 02:51 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	29/10/20 12:42 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	28/10/20 01:39 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	NitroX	28/10/20 02:48 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	lancaster	26/10/20 03:23 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Ripp	20/10/20 05:25 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	9.3x57	20/10/20 06:44 AM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	93x64mm	13/10/20 10:49 PM
Re: Fading away?? The 45 ACP isn't going anywhere....	Wayne59	13/10/20 12:11 PM

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