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I was running a .45 this weekend.
Nothing wrong with it at all.

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WE have a lot of handguns in our house.. as to semi-auto's..NOTHING feels as good in the hand as a 1911.. as least not to me...

The ones available today can be on the spendy side, but they are super reliable, accurate and just plain fun to shoot...

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True. The 1911 and Browning Hi Power to my hand have the same grip angle. I like my Glock but wish it had the Colt/Browning grip angle. Points so much more natural for me.

They say technology has made the 9mm almost as effective as the 40 cal and 45ACP. Well the same technology applied to them would make them better again, I would think. After all the bigger the hole the quicker the nervous system is negatively effected and the quicker blood is lost. Remember we are talking slow velocity rounds here not something doing 2500fps+

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Agree with the above..I know I have used this example before.. but years ago I was in pistol competitions shooting bowling pins..could shoot whatever caliber you wanted.. those shooting a 9mm would at times have to shoot the pins 2 to 3 times to get them off the table--not so with the 45acp--if a direct hit, 1 shot was all it took, they were gone.. and yes, all things being equal, if modern bullet design made the 9mm ALMOST as good, then wouldn't that same bullet design also make the 45acp that much better as well?? More marketing bullshit..

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For a carry pistol, I respectfully disagree.

First, a bit of backstory. For years on the ranch here we used service pistols to kill butcher stock. Mostly this involved sheep but also included goats and steers. The sheep were sort of semi-wild and shot in various sized paddocks and one corral. Long story short, I had been a great devotee of the .45 ACP till I started killing stuff with one. I used many different service pistol calibers and finally settled on the 9mm as I could see no difference until one got outside the type and into the heavier calibers like .41 and .44 Mag. The 9 was cheaper to shoot, too.

The point being, at the very low energy levels we are dealing with, the 9 and .45 produced no discernible difference in effectiveness. Observers simply could not tell me which round was used unless they saw me load the gun. As I see it, this has implications for concealed carry, as even if we assumed the 9 was somewhat effective {debatable of course} the general type of concealed carry pistol available almost always provides an advantage of magazine capacity to the 9 and while neither are hard to shoot, the 9 produces less recoil and is thus even easier to shoot than the .45. There are numerous examples of felons requiring multiple hits to stop regardless of what caliber the service pistol used was chambered in.

My son sort of summed it up years ago when he said "Dad, after being in on the killing of many critters in the 70 to 250 pound class with service pistols, if I had to go to Afghanistan and had my choice, I'd take the 9 with higher cap magazines every time". I'd do the same thing.

Just my $.02.

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Your .02 are very well accepted and appreciated

ALL of the special forces guys I train JJ with basically say the same thing for a carry guy..

However when I am on the ranch I carry 1 of 4 normally.. 454 Casull, 44mag S&W Titanium, Kimber 45acp with 4 " barrel, or S&W J-Frame titanium in .357 Mg..

For SD of the 2 legged variety in town or in my vehicle --normally a Glock 19X, Sig 365 or H&K..but all high capacity 9mm..as it seems they are running more in packs now days ..

I really enjoy these discussions.. always good to get more info.. AND I know you are using real world info.. not something you read in a magazine..
thx

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