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No, not at all.

In fact just the opposite. I tend to advise people to buy other than Wby unless it is the 378 based calibres because that is where Wbys value is the best.

If want a 30/378 you will be into a Synthetic Mark V (at least in Australia) easier and cheaper than converting a CZ and then getting a muzzle brake.

Things have changed somewhat with the big bore Wbys since the introduction of the CZ in 416 Rigby.

But one of the reasons I like Wby is just a personality thing between myself and the rifle. For whatever reason I am happy to take them as they are. I fact of all the Wbys I have owned I have only ever had a match grade barrel put on one of them. Also in plenty of cases I have not even bedded them. Not because they shot so wonderful but they just don't drag me dowm that road as do other rifles.

For example, if I had a Dakota there would be a Jewell trigger (assuming M70 fits) on the rifle within 5 minutes. M70 and Rem 700s for me have nearly always been limited to a few shots with the factory barrel just to see how the rifle goes and then on goes the match grade barrel and all the load testing that follows.

In short, Wbys for me have been the most relaxing rifles to own. As I said on the other thread I like them as an overall package.

But for functioning I have found the Wby and Sakos the best. Spotlight shooting tests rifles out because it is night time, very high volume of shooting and people going arse over head in the back of the truch when the driver sees a bunch of roos and accelerates. Hitting a stump is also interesting.

If I could have the action of my choice it would be a bigger version of the M70 push feed and with in line feed.

But good specimens of all the rifles are OK and we tend to find favour with those that have a basic appeal to us and fault with those that lack a basic appeal to us.

If the forums are representative then Australians tend to hold both Wby and Rem 700 in much higher regard than appears to be the case in America. Australians on this forum would be different because their is a concentration of Mauser/404/Double type shooters. But on a forum like Australian Hunting Net you would see considerable difference.

I think because the volume of shooting is much higher Australians tend to assess the shooting trip, bullet, gun as a whole thing over the shooting trip. We don't tend to carry guns loaded with the safety catch on. More common is the bolt pushed forward and the bolt handle up.

As a side note the biggest selling rifle in Australia is the Wby Vanguard. I can guarantee you that in 99% of cases when shooters discuss which rifle to buy either among themselves or a forum like Ausralian Hunting Net, then CRF would hardly be mentioned except in the light of single loading.

Leaving Mauser enthusiasts aside such as you will find on this forum the Mauser tends to be seen as junk. This probably goes back to earlier days when you used a Mauser or M17 to have a rifle made because you could not afford a M70, Rem 700 or Sako. They same thing also applies to a degree today.

Mike

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