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Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN
      05/12/19 12:01 AM

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Wow they look pretty nifty there Buckstix! - how did you make that little gizmo???

Please enclose your 'recipe' as it is an invaluable source of information to us 'novices' when it comes to bore guns - sadly lacking in that field of knowledge for me!
As an after thought - what was the original BP load/wads etc for these?



Hello 93x66mm,
Thanks for the reply.

The "gizmo" as you call it, was made from a brass 6-point "crimp-starter" insert from an old MEC 12ga shot-shell reloader. You could swap inserts to change from 6-point to 8-point crimps. Today they are made of plastic, but in the old days they were hardened brass. I had one laying around and got creative. Although they are no longer available, I see a few for sale on eBay for around $25.

I cut it off, and to keep everything in-lined, I soldered in into a brass sleeve that is a snug slip fit over the brass case. I then opened up the center to allow clearance for the bullet's nose. I made a another tool that matches the shape of the bullet's nose, that presses the bullet down into the case as the crimp is being formed. It weighs about a quarter pound so all it takes is a couple of thumps with the palm of your hand to do the crimp. The pictures below tell the story.

As far as my loading recipe goes, I'm using UNIQUE powder with Winchester brass cases. ?? grains of powder, covered with a tight fitting 1/8" thick card cut with the punch that came with the rifle, followed by five (5) 1/2" thick 12ga. fiber wads, with another 1/8" thick card under the bullet. Bullet was lightly finger lubed. I'm not going to publish powder weight until I have a chance to test it later today. Also, I'll first test the loads in a "cheap" modern 12ga double barrel shotgun to be on the safe side. When I dive into uncharted waters like this, (something I find myself doing quite often) I always try to be conservative. I don't want to harm this treasure.

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* THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN buckstix 02/12/19 02:14 AM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN Huvius   02/12/19 02:52 AM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN buckstix   02/12/19 03:41 AM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN DarylS   02/12/19 04:30 AM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN buckstix   02/12/19 05:52 AM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN TH44   02/12/19 09:52 AM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN 93x64mm   02/12/19 04:42 PM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN DarylS   02/12/19 01:03 PM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN Wayne59   02/12/19 03:48 PM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN DarylS   02/12/19 06:02 PM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN tinkerModerator   02/12/19 10:53 PM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN buckstix   03/12/19 01:38 AM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN Heelerau   03/12/19 11:16 AM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN buckstix   03/12/19 07:45 PM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN Heelerau   03/12/19 10:11 PM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN buckstix   04/12/19 02:51 PM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN 93x64mm   04/12/19 09:28 PM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN buckstix   05/12/19 12:01 AM
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. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN Heelerau   05/12/19 08:45 AM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN buckstix   05/12/19 09:46 AM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN 93x64mm   21/05/22 06:55 AM
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. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN lancaster   01/05/23 03:25 PM
. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN buckstix   05/08/23 05:46 AM
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. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN buckstix   12/12/20 09:10 AM
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. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN tinkerModerator   18/12/19 01:03 PM
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. * * Re: THOMAS BLAND & SONS - "EUOPLIA" - 12GA PARADOX GUN buckstix   25/12/19 05:06 AM
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