Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact
NitroExpress.com: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks

View recent messages : 24 hours | 48 hours | 7 days | 14 days | 30 days | 60 days | More Smilies


*** Enjoy NitroExpress.com? Participate and join in. ***

Double Rifles, Single Shots & Combinations >> Single Shots & Combination Guns

DoubleD
.400 member


Reged: 23/11/03
Posts: 2437
Loc: Retired in Oklahoma
Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks
      16/06/19 11:36 PM

Yes, I have commented on this gun over on GunBoards.

It is a Belguim made Martini. This board and the British Militaria board are the two best boards to come to, to have those marks read.

While I am reluctant to state emphatically, I doubt it has anything to do with Thomas Bland and Son's. Martini's came along after the firm became "& Son's".

I think this is similar to the guns imported into the US from Belgium in the late 1890's up to somewhere around WWI, primarily shotguns that bore deceptive makers marks. Most I have seen were W.Richards. There may have been others. They were cheap, but the ones I have seen were well made. I had a number of them come through my shop for repairs over the years. Repair parts hard to impossible find and difficult to make. The reputation was they were cheap, so worthless to repair. I didn't see that quality in them at all. It was a shame they used deceptive markings. People get very upset when tell them.


This gun could be one of those. But in all honesty, I have only ever seen these guns in Shotguns. I don't know either, if these guns only came to the US. market or others in the world.

If this gun is part of that trade, it is the first Rifle I have seen so marked.

The T. Bland mark is spurious, hand stamped. Even handstamped to be Bland it would have to have been marked "T.Bland & Sons" to be correct.

Else wise this is a very nice looking rifle. It would make a nice addition to Martini Sporting rifle collection.

--------------------
DD, Ret.

Post Extras Print Post   Remind Me!     Notify Moderator


Entire topic
Subject Posted by Posted on
* Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks buckstix 15/06/19 02:42 PM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks 93x64mm   16/06/19 08:01 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks DoubleD   16/06/19 11:36 PM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks buckstix   25/06/19 10:07 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks DoubleD   26/06/19 02:09 PM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks buckstix   26/06/19 10:11 PM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks lancaster   28/06/19 04:42 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks DarylS   26/06/19 01:32 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks degoins   26/06/19 03:01 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks 93x64mm   26/06/19 06:22 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks lancaster   25/06/19 01:45 PM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks lancaster   17/06/19 03:11 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks buckstix   17/06/19 04:48 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks DoubleD   17/06/19 10:50 PM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks buckstix   19/06/19 09:46 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks DarylS   20/06/19 02:06 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks CptCurlAdministrator   20/06/19 08:13 PM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks DarylS   21/06/19 02:15 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks 93x64mm   21/06/19 06:10 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks CptCurlAdministrator   21/06/19 09:59 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks 93x64mm   22/06/19 05:51 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks buckstix   22/06/19 08:49 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks DarylS   22/06/19 12:36 PM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks buckstix   22/06/19 04:53 PM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks lancaster   22/06/19 06:22 PM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks DarylS   23/06/19 02:53 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks 93x64mm   23/06/19 08:00 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks DarylS   23/06/19 05:56 PM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks CptCurlAdministrator   21/06/19 10:07 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks DoubleD   22/06/19 12:28 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks CptCurlAdministrator   22/06/19 01:53 AM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks DoubleD   26/06/19 01:59 PM
. * * Re: Martini 577-450 Sporting Rifle - Help with proof marks DarylS   21/06/19 06:45 AM

Extra information
0 registered and 185 anonymous users are browsing this forum.

Moderator:  Huvius 



Forum Permissions
      You cannot start new topics
      You cannot reply to topics
      HTML is disabled
      UBBCode is enabled

Rating:
Thread views: 11627

Rate this thread

Jump to

Contact Us NitroExpress.com

Powered by UBB.threads™ 6.5.5


Home | Ezine | Forums | Links | Contact


Copyright 2003 to 2011 - all rights reserved