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Rod4861
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Re: Blaser Rifles:Are they more marketing than engineering?
      03/02/19 09:49 PM

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If you don't like Blasers..buy something you do like. Life is too short to waste talking about things you don't like or appreciate !

Cheers
Rod




If the people who don't like them aren't alklowed to talk about them, who would be left?

I would very much LIKE to like the R93. I did consider one at one point. But the marketing to down play the safety issues doesn't remove the actual problem.

When I hunted with ErikD in Norway, he used to have a R93, but got rid of it and instead bought a Mauser M03. Which I used. Got to like it. So ended buying one myself, in the Synthetic Extreme configuration., Later added a second Mauser M03 with a Germanic Schnabel style stock. Four barrels so far, two actions and stock, several bolt heads and magazines. The only complaint so far is a weak magazine spring in the .222 magazine, so it is used as a single shot. Myalls promised me a free replacement magazine years ago. Still have to act on it.

The Mauser M03 is a real bolt action rifle.

Interesting since then ErikD has sold off his Mauser M03 and bought a Blaser R8.

I would consider a R8, EXCEPT I really hate the limited magazine and even more hate the removable trigger/magazine BS engineering to overcome an obstacle of extremely poor design.

The Blaser does usually have a much lighter weight. And does pack in a smaller shoebox when travelling than the Mauser M03.

One thing I don't think anyone has mentioned, is what one Baron in Germany claims is essential for driven game shooting and that is speed of reloading. Presumably semi autos and maybe pump actions are banned (?). He claims a double rifle is inadequate having only two shots, and a normal turn bolt action way too slow for quick reloading when shooting driven running game. Now a Blaser with its two or three shot inadequate magazine doesn't seem an improvement. I think he shoots some other over engineered weird straight pull German rifle creation. Designed for shooting from hochsitz's.

Why is a magazine/trigger a prlem?

First it is so obvious. Who on Earth designs a combined magazine trigger which has to be removed to be reloaded? A crazy person ...

Secondly, as said, something else to go wrong, and forgotten. Especially where it is required to have the magazine removed from a rifle during travel or other times. Not a huge problem to loose a removable magazine, a useless firearm without a trigger ...

I would buy a R8. But probably would have a dozen or two other choices or priority rifle choices in front of it .... And for a nice takedown, given unlimited funds, a nice set of Mauser 98 or 98 styled actions and barrels in takedown form would be 1000% better. Some makers do make them.

Maybe the next Blaser model could be designed by actual hunters and riflemen!

Added: I think Staffan/Sville had a Blaser, I forget which model, probably R93 and I MAY have carried it for an afternoon. Never shot it. Mostly he loaned to me a 9.3mm double rifle he has.




Its fine for people to have and express their opinion but it would help if those doing so were speaking from first hand experience. Most of the negative comments regarding the R8 start with "I've got a mate who heard.........."

The magazines/trigger housing does not have to be removed when traveling and or for storage in Queensland. And I know for a fact that it is not a requirement for overseas travel to the USA and NZ from Australia. I seriously doubt if it is required in any Australian State...but who knows perhaps in WA. WA is a weird and special case.

You keep mentioning a magazine capacity of 2 or 3 rounds ? The R8 has a magazine capacity of 4 for cartridges like te 30/06 & the 9,3x62. Yes it is only three when using belted magnum cartridges like the 300 Win Mag. Which means the R8 magazine capacity is pretty much on par with Remington model 700's, Winchester 70's, and many other popular rifles with fixed magazines. For some instances, primarily culling or when hunting some dangerous game then yes, a big magazine can be an advantage.

I should also point out that the R8 magazine does not have to be removed to load. It can be loaded either fitted or detached.

The R8 is a great rifle but it is not perfect for every hunting situation. I'm sure I could find a better outfit for culling large numbers of animals, and whilst I have no experience with driven game (as known in Europe) I'm sure there may be a better choices than an R8. But I reckon if all I had for such circumstances was an R8 then I wouldn't feel naked.

My R8 is my goto rifle for most hunts these days. I have hunted pigs, Brown bear, Dall sheep and other stuff with it and it does very well. In saying that I also have a Sako Finlight which is my NZ rifle and I've got 2 Rigby's which will get to Africa within the next few years. And I almost forgot got an FN model 98 in 9.3x62 which has killed it's fair share of game. Damn thing has a double set trigger so I guess it was designed to shooting from hochsitz's too. Still love it; horses for courses so they say.

Anyway, if you want to bag the R8, or Blasers in general, for the sake/entertainment of bagging them then fine. I get that! I enjoy rubbishing ghay boys and their ghay useless 270 Winchesters too.

Oh and I forget to mention those poor dumb bastards (but not ghay unless chambered in 270) who shoot Mauser 03's

Have a good night.

Cheers

Rod

Edited by Rod4861 (03/02/19 09:58 PM)

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