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Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing?
      28/01/19 01:31 PM

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I am taking the "Wait and see" attitude with this one.

So far I have not seen anything that would cause me to want one yet. Yes it's faster then the 5.56 NATO, but so is the 22-250 (by quite a lot) so the fact that the "Valk" fits into an AR is the one thing that may make it grow in popularity. I do not know what the downrange addition of velocity it gives (not all that much as compared to a 22-250) is really going to gain over the NATO cartridge loaded with bullet up to 77 grains.
I do not argue that the heavier bullet at high velocity is going to beat the 556 at ALL ranges in a test of speed.

But I have not found the "mission statement" where that speed would matter in real world shooting. To sales-pitch this as a new "long range hunting rifle" seems to pale in comparison to dozens of older far more powerful and well established shells available for decades.

Around the middle of Wyoming the AR with a standard 5.56 chamber is the King of Varmint Guns and those that want something faster have been the driving force to barrel (or re-barrel) 22-250 bolt actions in 1-8 twist or sometimes 1-7.

Shooting at ranges over 600 and out to 1200 is not something anyone seems to need or want semi-auto function for, at least around here.

Personally I think an AR type rifle in a 22-250 would be very cool, but there are no magazines available that will accommodate that much body taper for such rifles (yet)

The 224 Valkyrie may be a step in that direction. It doesn't meet the velocities of the 22-250, but it is faster then the 5.56 NATO

But only time will tell if this catches on or fizzles. For me personally, I'll save my money and let someone else do all the research and development on this one. This may be very cool later on, but not interesting enough to me to make me spend money on one yet.




Everything you say here applies in principle to the 6.5x55/6.5 Creedmor debate. I own 6.5x55 rifles in modern actions and for that reason have not bought a Creedmor, but everybody I know that has the latter really likes it.

I do not own a Valkyrie either but think that since the standard 5.56-sized AR is THE rifle in the USA today, the addition of more calibers to feed that platform is A OK w/ me.

I'm actually interested in this one if simple uppers are available and the standard lower can be used. Mod'd mags would be no big deal. I've got redundancy in AR's and it would be neat to try one of these not to mention the utility on coyotes and deer.


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* The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp 10/11/17 01:18 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Wayne59   10/11/17 05:28 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? NitroXAdministrator   10/11/17 08:44 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   11/11/17 12:19 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? NitroXAdministrator   11/11/17 01:18 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? NitroXAdministrator   11/11/17 01:19 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   11/11/17 02:45 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? NitroXAdministrator   11/11/17 03:43 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Rule303   06/01/18 10:45 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   17/01/18 03:59 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Claydog   17/01/18 09:04 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   17/01/18 01:27 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Will_F   18/01/18 09:12 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Rule303   31/01/18 07:13 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   18/01/18 01:36 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   31/01/18 02:42 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? DarylS   31/01/18 04:01 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Rule303   31/01/18 07:17 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   01/02/18 03:13 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? ismith   02/02/18 02:47 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   03/02/18 04:37 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   27/01/19 01:20 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   27/01/19 01:30 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? szihn   27/01/19 03:27 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? 9.3x57   28/01/19 01:31 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? tinker   27/01/19 03:38 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   28/01/19 02:09 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? tinker   28/01/19 02:32 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   28/01/19 04:55 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? szihn   28/01/19 05:27 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   28/01/19 09:32 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? DarylS   28/01/19 11:55 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? tinker   28/01/19 12:06 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   18/01/18 01:33 PM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   11/11/17 04:02 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? DarylS   11/11/17 04:59 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   06/12/17 03:43 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   20/12/17 01:16 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Eck   21/12/17 12:11 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? ismith   06/01/18 05:15 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? Ripp   06/01/18 07:25 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? tinker   11/11/17 02:48 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? SharpsNitro   11/11/17 03:10 AM
. * * Re: The-Keefe-report- .224-Valkyrie- The-next-big-thing? NitroXAdministrator   11/11/17 03:34 AM

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