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Hello lancaster,

Thanks for the reply.

You might be right about where this rifle was made. Although it has fairly good quality, I don't think the quality is up to that of my other Miller & Val Greiss. I'm sure you remember my earlier post about my other M&VG double rifle. That's the double with the Martini style action. I thank you for helping me with cartridge and bullet info. Thanks to you I've got that one shooting great!
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As far as black powder goes, I did load some this morning. I loaded 4 cartridges with FFFg black powder and will measure the velocity. I used 55g compressed to the base of a 265g bullet. I have tried IMR4198 with a 250g bullet and got a velocity of 1340 fps. Groups were crossing but acceptable. I'm not sure if that velocity is in the ball park for the bullet weight, or not.

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I just got back from the range. I've been shooting on our 50-foot indoor range because the weather has been bad. Its not the way I generally work up a load for one of my doubles, but it will do until we get a nice day so I can shoot outside at 50 yards.

I think I've finally completed this task, for now. As stated above, I loaded 4 cases with 55g FFFg and a 265g half-jacket bullet. The velocity measured 1215 fps with a 11 fps spread from low to high. I'm guessing that is pretty close to what this rifle was regulated to shoot. The 4-shot group went into a 1-hole group that measured a 3/8" spread. (first target) I couldn't really tell which were the rights and which were the lefts, but I don't think it matters. I do recall that the very first shot was the one that went dead-center.

I also loaded 4 cases with 26g AA5744 and the 265g half-jacket bullets. The velocity measured for these was 1345 fps with a 3 fps spread from low to high. Those also shot into a 1-hole group, except that they were a little higher and to the left of center. (second target) That group measured a 1/4" spread. And, like the black powder group, I couldn't tell which were the rights and which were the lefts.

So, next time I shoot this rifle it will be on the outdoor 50 yard range. However, I won't be shooting any black powder, too much mess, smoke, and clean-up time. Besides, the AA5744 load has 6 pounds less recoil (10.9 ft/lbs vs 16.9 ft/lbs) and 190 ft/lbs more muzzle energy. (1055 ft/lbs vs 865 ft/lbs) Neither has enough energy for BIG GAME, but plenty good enough for Wisconsin White Tail Deer and smaller game.

I'm pretty happy how this went.

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