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Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S?
      05/11/18 03:03 PM

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Silly question gentlemen.
In regard to the older models up to M1910 to avoid mutilating the rifle, could a small curved shaped block (polished)be fitted to the forward edge of the older styled magazine where the nose of the bullet would normally rotate over?
This should then provide support & allow whatever sized or length projectiles to be used, so they wouldn't tip out & hang up - especially No3, or am I missing something here?
I'm also assuming that this would have to be fitted above what appears to be the magazine release spring?
With the M1924 & later models that have the 'guide' ring this then fixed this issue?




Not silly at all.

I was having the same thoughts as I was posting the above descriptions of the 'problem' (pitfall, literally). In theory, such an auxiliary piece could even be held in place by a flush mounted screw and thus be removable (though the parts would be quite small). If one had a 'spare' magazine (such as a surplus 'Greek Contract" mag for a M1903) that was expendable, one could braze or weld material onto the front guide area and machine it to size / shape. Perhaps it would be easier, however, to fabricate and add a 'ring' just as the Steyr engineers did with the M1924 onward. All of this is speculation as I have never modified an MS magazine nor do I know of anyone who has.

This is the Magazine 'body', or housing, from a 6.5X54 'Greek Contract' MS (and is currently available on Ebay) It is the same as that of a M1903:



It is my understanding that the 'ring' added to magazines from M1924 onward 'fixed' the issue. My only MS is a M1910, so you'll have to ask others for accounts regarding actual use of different projectiles on M1924 (and later) Mannlicher Schönauers.

Another idea, if one was really fond of a particular spitzer load for their MS and wanted to do a proper job of it, would be to craft a precise model of a new lower housing and spindle of wax to fit the spitzer (or of another material, build a rubber mold around it and shoot some waxes), then make metal copies using the 'lost wax' (investment) process. CAD and 3D printing could be employed to make the model, then hand finish. Wax casting being a repeatable process, once one was made they could be reproduced indefinitely.

For me, I'll just continue building my M1910 rounds as close to the original DWM 531 profile as possible and / or try Kuduae's formulae. I have a good supply of 270 grain RNSP for can, bottle, and gong killing and am still searching for the ideal 'unleaded' hunting projectile for the M1910.

These look promising:
Peregrine Solid




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* Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator 03/11/18 07:52 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   03/11/18 08:22 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   04/11/18 12:18 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   04/11/18 12:56 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? DarylS   04/11/18 06:24 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   04/11/18 03:15 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   04/11/18 05:17 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? sharps4590   05/11/18 12:43 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   05/11/18 02:02 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Waidmannsheil   06/11/18 06:19 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   04/11/18 12:07 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Waidmannsheil   06/11/18 07:21 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? fsrmg1   10/11/18 12:44 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   14/11/18 09:57 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Hook   09/03/24 12:21 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Marrakai   09/03/24 02:14 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? DonZ   10/03/24 05:06 AM
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. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   23/02/24 12:22 PM
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. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   03/12/18 08:12 PM
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. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   21/11/18 01:35 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   27/11/18 04:57 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? DonZ   28/11/18 04:24 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   28/11/18 05:32 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   29/11/18 06:34 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? DonZ   29/11/18 03:43 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   02/12/18 04:34 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   29/11/18 06:22 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   28/11/18 08:56 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   05/11/18 04:20 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Hook   06/11/18 04:40 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Hook   24/01/19 05:45 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   29/01/19 10:04 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Hook   30/01/19 02:56 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? JDL   25/01/19 12:34 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Waidmannsheil   25/01/19 05:05 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? 93x64mm   25/01/19 07:02 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   03/11/18 08:29 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   03/11/18 09:38 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   03/11/18 08:43 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   04/11/18 12:24 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   05/11/18 04:27 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? 93x64mm   05/11/18 08:42 AM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? Rothhammer1   05/11/18 03:03 PM
. * * Re: Use of spitzer bullets in the 6.5x54 M-S? NitroXAdministrator   03/11/18 07:59 PM
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